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To: lupie

“Preach in all things you do and if necessary use words.”

Unexpected service to others is a great sermon. It has worked for 2,000 years.


96 posted on 04/20/2014 7:38:51 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: buffaloguy
You didn't even come close to answering the charge that I put to you - you just sidestepped, but this time I will address that sidestep because it is a common error that people use to avoid God's command of His people to always be exalting His name.

I said:
"And how are they to hear without someone preaching? And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!” But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?” So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ."

Found in scripture in Romans 10:15-17, authored by the Holy Spirit through Paul.

I add:
"I charge you in the presence of God and of Christy Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort with complete patience and understanding."

Round in scripture in 2 Time 4:1,2, authored by the Holy Spirit through Peter.

You in response to Paul's words in Romans:
Preach in all things you do and if necessary use words

NOT found in scripture, authored by ? through ? If you do a search on this phrase you find that although it is accredited to St Francis of Assisi (not scripture),but he is not known to have said it. After a couple weeks of searching, no scholar could find this quote in a story written within 200 years of Francis’ death.

Summary:
It seems that we have God's Word vs some unknown man's word. The Word of God says the gospel must be preached with words because faith comes through hearing. That is how God has designed it - that we must preach the gospel. And He goes on to say we must preach it in season and out of season, always with patience. That is by His design. But you try to sidestep that by quoting some urban legend, that may sound good, but says, oh, God doesn't REALLY mean we have to preach God's Word. Didn't Satan say the same thing to Eve - God didn't REALLY mean that.

God's Word also says elsewhere that even the pagans know how to be nice to others they care about. Being nice to others that we don't know is not a bad thing, but without giving them TRUTH, it is nothing more than our own works of "righteousness" which are nothing more than filthy rags and will be burnt up.

Perhaps this is why we see many commercials on tv about feeding the starving kids and animals - so send money!Do you know how the terrorist group, Hamas, became so popular with the people? By doing just what you said - serving them through benevolence in order to gain their confidence and spread their poison. Why do the cults often succeed? They prey on the lonely and needy.

Back to original question that you avoided and sidestepped:

You:
...the bottom line is that we are now talking about Jesus in a public forum. Pretty good outreach

To which I answered and questioned:
Why is that the bottom line? Why is that a good outreach? By your own reasoning, then you must think that Mormon or Jehovah Witness forums are also great outreach, as would one by Westboro Baptist church. People talking ABOUT Jesus is not the gospel. It is not worship. Looking at a picture that people may perceive to be Jesus is not the gospel, nor is it worship.

Will directly address the issue this time?

99 posted on 04/21/2014 4:46:12 AM PDT by lupie
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