[cloudmountain]

In just a bit over 200 years we have added 6 billion people to this island Earth. One can easily imagine how many people were on the Earth when Noah and his family were rescued from the flood. The savagery that man descends to in such short time is remarkable and so telling of our sin nature. How we rebel against the one who loves us so.

True enough.

Imagine if the Chinese allowed all the children that the one billion Chinese people wanted. Massive famine, I would guess. Imagine if they hadn't aborted all their female fetuses. Oh well.

As for rebellion, it began with pride, the beginning of sin. God did give us free will. I wonder why it's so hard for people to choose God. Also, we are so spoiled, lucky and often ungrateful.

Tell me, do non-Catholics believe in purgatory? It's the place where we are purged of all the sin and its effects. THEN we get to go to heaven, purged of all but grace.

[rjsimmon]

Tell me, do non-Catholics believe in purgatory? It's the place where we are purged of all the sin and its effects.

Nope. Christ took our sins to the cross. If we put something like Purgatory in the mix we are telling Christ his sacrifice was insufficient. You wanna be the one to tell him that?

THEN we get to go to heaven, purged of all but grace.

We receive the full measure of grace when we accept Christ. It never diminishes. To say otherwise is tantamount to heresy.