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To: D-fendr


“And held by billions.”

The facts of exaggerated roman membership numbers have been posted here by many.

Truth is never decided by majority vote in Scripture.

“Your position requires those taught by the apostles to have got the very focus of their liturgy”

No, there is no liturgy that was not changed and can be proven to be used during the time of the Apostles.

“and sacraments wrong from the beginning,”

No, same response. It does not withstand historical examination.

“all over Christendom;”

Back to arguing based on geography, I see. Still never the basis of truth.

” the Greek fathers of the Church misinterpreting the Greek that you now know better .”

Eisogesis is not limited to English speakers such as the views you espoused here. Human nature never changes.

“The whole of Christian believers, wrong, for 1500 years, until Zwingly set it right.”

Time doesn’t decide truth either. All variations of logical fallacies.

Given that Rome lost the Gospel, it is not surprising that other truth was obscured when paganism was incorporated into her.

It astounds me that it is not enough for me (as expressed in your posts) to seek to obey God’s commands and obey my conscience as He desires.


118 posted on 04/15/2014 7:38:18 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Truth is never decided by majority vote in Scripture.

And yet your argument was "by millions of believers". If you don't wish to compare numbers, then don't claim numbers.

It does not withstand historical examination.

So, let's go historical examination. What do you have supporting your view of no real presence in the Holy Eucharist?

119 posted on 04/15/2014 1:34:55 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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