[markomalley]

Msgr Pope ping

[glorgau]

Why Physicists Are Saying Consciousness Is A State Of Matter, Like a Solid, A Liquid Or A Gas - I tried reading the Tegmark paper but got lost in the matrix stuff (pretty darn rusty in that).

[ravenwolf]

I believe God would have to be in our conscience since that is where we came from.

1John 1:13
I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.

[grobdriver]

Until they become Democrats.

[Islander7]

It is my experience that deep down inside, most people know exactly what they are doing.

...and that is precisely why the vast majority of homosexuals are so unhappy.

[SkyPilot]

A Recent Study Affirms that Conscience is innate and present even in the youngest children.

"18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things."

Romans 1: 18-23

[NYer]

Ping!

[Mrs. Don-o]

I believe Fr. Pope is right on the money here. And yet---I hope someone can discuss this clearly --- why did Jesus say, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do"?

Jesus here is acting as defense attorney for his own murderers while they are in the very process of murdering him, and his plea for them is, "They don't know..."

What's up with that?

[Texicanus]

I may be theologically off-base, but man did not know good and evil until he eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge as recorded in Genesis. Since then he has known good and evil and was cast out of the garden into the world. Could this be the conscience you allude to?

If so, then we have a conscience (foreknowledge of good and evil) given to us by GOD. And against our better judgement we are persuaded (tempted or corrupted or deceived) by the world (Satan) to do evil. It is our conscience that guides us toward GOD and away from evil.

As little children we are conceived with this knowledge, which is why the abortionist cannot wait for them to be born. How many saints has Satan aborted in the womb? How many of GOD’s little children has he deceived after they are born? Jesus warned us, the world is evil and we have all sinned.

[MDLION]

People who attempt to suppress their consciences make me think of a couple of quotes:

“Right is right even if nobody does it. Wrong is wrong even if everybody is doing it.” - G.K. Chesterton

Mankind cannot stand too much reality.” -T.S. Eliot