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To: Repent and Believe
I do not provide all of the scriptures to support my points below, but can do so if you would like.

The primary sense of what I was saying is that by “curse”, I mean: specific damage to yourself and humanity . . .

Yes, sin has consequences - sometimes to us, sometimes to our loved ones, sometimes to others, and sometimes to all of the above. But, sometimes, although we should never expect it, in His mercy and grace, God keeps us from all or part of the consequences. And, sometimes, He goes beyond the consequences to discipline us.

Can you illustrate one place where Jesus fails Himself to keep all Ten Commandments?

Jesus was perfect, and He was a perfect Jew - He kept the Ten Commandments and every other Jewish Law. He had to, otherwise He would not have been sinless. But, because He was sinless and was the eternal sacrifice for our sins, we do not have to be, and, in fact, cannot be perfect.

It seems presumptuous to suppose that to fail in one of the commandments cannot play a role in the loss of our soul.

I attempt to follow God's leading and Christ's example because I am saved, not in order to be saved, and to be His light and salt on the earth such that others will follow Him. If my works have anything to do with my salvation, then Christ's sacrifice was useless.

Do you think that it is impossible to lose your soul after putting your faith in Christ?

Yes, I can lose my salvation, but it is not on a day-to-day basis, depending on how good I am. I did nothing to earn or deserve my salvation, except to repent and accept Christ as my Lord and Saviour. How can I, therefore, do anything to unearn or undeserve that salvation, except to willfully reject Him.

40 posted on 04/01/2014 12:21:52 PM PDT by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: jda

You said, “…we do not have to be, and, in fact, cannot be perfect.”

Jesus said, “Be ye perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect.”

You said, “…If my works have anything to do with my salvation, then Christ’s sacrifice was useless.”

Look at it, rather, this way: It is due to Christ’s sacrifice that my works are able to help save me. Were His sacrifice of no use then my works would not even be considered in the equation. This is not a matter of pridefully earning heaven, but a matter of living in the fear of the Lord. And it has to do with following in His footsteps.

Look, Adam and Eve (that means we) really blew it in the garden. We deserved to be thrown into hell for all eternity without a second thought. But since God is love, he sent His only begotten Son on our behalf. So now it is possible to please God with our works as we live in Jesus through the grace that He offers us.

To many at the last judgment He shall say, “Depart from Me, for when I was thirsty you did not…” This evaluation is based upon works versus no works.

“those who did good will come forth to life; and those who did evil will come forth to judgment.” (John 5:29)

You said, “…How can I, therefore, do anything to unearn or undeserve that salvation, except to willfully reject Him.”

To sin seriously is to willfully reject Him. The two are the same. “If you love me then keep My commandments.” (John 14:15)


41 posted on 04/02/2014 9:44:13 AM PDT by Repent and Believe (Promote good. Tolerate the harmless. Let evil be crushed.)
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