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To: NKP_Vet; Faith Presses On
Methinks if someone has went to the Salvation Army and was treated the exact same way the story would not have posted. Another day, another Catholic-bashing on FR.

Ummm...shouldn't that be "Ithinks", Miss Chambers? ;o)

The thing is, Vet, this wasn't a hypothetical but a genuine experience. This hair-trigger response to anything even remotely negative about the Roman Catholic religion as "bashing" needs to be desensitized if y'all expect to participate on these forum threads. Otherwise, like Chicken Little or the boy who cried wolf, your complaints will be ignored - even if and when REAL bashing occurs (which is rare, truth be told).

54 posted on 03/26/2014 1:03:19 PM PDT by boatbums (Simul justis et peccator.)
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To: boatbums

Most Catholic Charities do not give advise on how to be a good little homosexual. You know it and I know it. And if the story had involved a protestant charity it would not have been posted. No link or anything, just a poster telling FR what they allegedly witnessed at a Catholic charity. Same crap, different day.


55 posted on 03/26/2014 1:14:40 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant" - John Henry Cardinal Newman)
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To: boatbums; NKP_Vet; Faith Presses On; Mrs. Don-o
NKT_Vet,

I would add to the comments made by boatbums...

I necessarily believe that personal account...or deny it...for all I know, Faith Presses On is some 26 year old zit faced boy sitting in his mother's basement surrounded by empty bottles of Mountain Dew and half-eaten Domino's Pizza boxes. It doesn't really matter. The account doesn't strain credulity in any way.

Benedict XVI, back in 2012, issued a Motu Proprio, Intima Ecclesiae natura, in a specific effort to address some of the very issues that Faith Presses On talked about in her post.

In this Motu Proprio, Benedict XVI imposed the following norms:

Art. 7. - § 1. The agencies referred to in Article 1 § 1 are required to select their personnel from among persons who share, or at least respect, the Catholic identity of these works.

§ 2. To ensure an evangelical witness in the service of charity, the diocesan Bishop is to take care that those who work in the Church’s charitable apostolate, along with due professional competence, give an example of Christian life and witness to a formation of heart which testifies to a faith working through charity. To this end, he is also to provide for their theological and pastoral formation, through specific curricula agreed upon by the officers of various agencies and through suitable aids to the spiritual life.

Whether or not you believe the account in the OP, think about what happened with Catholic Charities of Southern Illinois...the employees were more than happy to move to a secular function when the bishops decided to close down the adoption function because of the state's rule mandating sodomite adoptions. If the employees are perfectly OK supporting that, how strong can they possibly be in their belief in the teachings of the Church???

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Art. 10. - § 1. It is the responsibility of the Bishop to supervise the ecclesiastical goods of the charitable agencies subject to his authority.

(snip)

§ 3. In particular, the diocesan Bishop is to ensure that charitable agencies dependent upon him do not receive financial support from groups or institutions that pursue ends contrary to Church’s teaching. Similarly, lest scandal be given to the faithful, the diocesan Bishop is to ensure that these charitable agencies do not accept contributions for initiatives whose ends, or the means used to pursue them, are not in conformity with the Church’s teaching.

(snip)

Particularly in the last five-½ years, can any reasonable person doubt that the US government is the enemy of all Christians, particularly Catholics? Yet you can see yourself from the data I posted in #32 that there are plenty of Catholic social service agencies that gladly take money from that very self-same government. That government that definitely pursue(s) ends contrary to Church’s teaching -- how can they do that in light of the Holy Father's directives?

Art. 11. – The diocesan Bishop is obliged, if necessary, to make known to the faithful the fact that the activity of a particular charitable agency is no longer being carried out in conformity with the Church’s teaching, and then to prohibit that agency from using the name “Catholic” and to take the necessary measures should personal responsibilities emerge.

How many diocesan bishops even consider this information? How many of them carefully examine their local Catholic social services efforts to ensure that they are in full compliance? Or do they, like they did in Boston, have to get hit across the head with a 2×4 in order to see the obvious?

Look, why would the Holy Father issue the above directions in the form of a Motu Proprio if there wasn't an issue with Catholic social service efforts?

It doesn't really matter whether Faith Presses On's story is factual or not. Fact of the matter is that there are issues with Catholic Charities. Playing the Ostrich won't solve those issues.

60 posted on 03/26/2014 1:49:51 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: boatbums
This hair-trigger response to anything even remotely negative about the Roman Catholic religion as "bashing" needs to be desensitized if y'all expect to participate on these forum threads.

While constantly posting articles which exalt Rome and demean evangelicals, yet denying Catholics ever initiate an argument with protestants on FR.

210 posted on 06/01/2014 3:55:06 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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