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To: cloudmountain

Forty years ago, the American bishops were over 90% Democrat. That generation did almost NOTHING to oppose abortion. The Party came first.

The problem still exists. The official position of the USCCB is that Canon 915 should be disobeyed if there is any danger of appearing to support Republicans. (They don’t word it quite like that, but that’s exactly what they meant.)

Believe me, there are many, many bishops out there who, right this minute, would tell you that it has been wise of the bishops to soft-pedal abortion, because otherwise, we might not have Obamacare!


21 posted on 03/24/2014 7:44:28 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
Forty years ago, the American bishops were over 90% Democrat. That generation did almost NOTHING to oppose abortion. The Party came first.

Not news. But I REMEMBER that abortion wasn't an issue to anyone at all. It wasn't spoken about. Birth control pills were just coming out. THAT was HUGE.
Sherri Finkbine (sp?) as I recall was the first American woman to have a legal abortion in this country.
From GOOGLE: Sherri Finkbine (born Sherri Chessen in 1932) is an American television actress.
Finkbine was known as Miss Sherri on the local Phoenix, Arizona, version of the franchised children's show, Romper Room. The Finkbine Case began in London, England, in 1961, when her husband was chaperoning sixty-four high school students on a European tour. He obtained some Thalidomide and carried the remainder home. Finkbine took thirty-six of the pills in the early stages of her pregnancy. Neither she nor her husband was aware until July 1962 that the pills contained Thalidomide.

Sherri was pretty stupid...and, IMHO, evil. Why didn't she HAVE the baby and give him/her up for adoption? Oh well. Her aborted baby is LONG PAST with our good Lord.

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The problem still exists. The official position of the USCCB is that Canon 915 should be disobeyed if there is any danger of appearing to support Republicans. (They don’t word it quite like that, but that’s exactly what they meant.)

Now you are the mind reader. I have NEVER seen the "official position" of the USCCB where Canon 915 should be disobeyed. I am Catholic and Republican and have been so, OPENLY, in a very liberal city. Politics are NEVER, EVER, ever mentioned. Not even remotely. Priests are ON MESSAGE with the rest of the world's Catholic Church. Well, that is MY parish.

Canon law is one thing but expecting priests to be mind readers and NOT give communion? I have never seen ANYONE turned away from Holy Communion. I've been to Mass ALL OVER the world...even in Saudi Arabia where my husband worked for ARAMCO, the Arabian-American Oil Company. The company provided "special teachers," that is, Protestant ministers, priests and even an Anglican priest for the six Anglicans on camp. There were about equal numbers of Catholics and lumped-together Protestants.
That is where I started going to DAILY Mass. Imagine, getting the daily Mass habit in a Muslim country.
My co-worked there was an Indian Catholic and he REALLY objected to my taking off 20 stinking minutes to go across the street to the clubhouse room where Mass was held. I went on Sunday mornings because SUNDAY was MY holy day, not Fridays! He (Harry) said that I should go to Mass on Fridays with the rest of the Catholics. He was so angry with me that he went to our Saudi boss to "tell on me."
I remember that VIVIDLY. Our boss said: "Harry, God is number one. There is always time for God. Cloud Mountain (of course, not my real name) can go to pray whenever she wants."
Hah, I don't know WHOSE jaw fell farther or faster, Harry's or mine. So, I WENT to Mass and went daily. I THINK that the Holy Spirit was a huge part of that. I continue with daily Mass these 30 years later.

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Believe me, there are many, many bishops out there who, right this minute, would tell you that it has been wise of the bishops to soft-pedal abortion, because otherwise, we might not have Obamacare!

I don't believe you. Sorry.
We don't get homilies on abortion so it isn't "soft-pedaled" or ever mentioned unless it was germane to the readings.
None of our four priests (or visiting priests) have EVER mentioned Obamacare. Why would they?

30 posted on 03/24/2014 8:48:07 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Arthur McGowan

“That generation did almost NOTHING to oppose abortion”

The Catholic Church stood alone in opposing Roe w. Wade. Last time I checked the American bishops were part of the Catholic Church. As a matter of fact the bishops of 40 years ago where a lot more conservative than Dolan and Wuerl.

And as far as the political affiliation of American Catholic bishops did this 90% tell you how they voted.


59 posted on 03/24/2014 8:44:57 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant" - John Henry Cardinal Newman)
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