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My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen

Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.

Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.

Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.

Amen.

She became the Mother of God, in which work so many and such great good things are bestowed on her as pass man’s understanding. For on this there follows all honor, all blessedness, and her unique place in the whole of mankind, among which she has no equal, namely, that she had a child by the Father in heaven, and such a Child . . . Hence men have crowded all her glory into a single word, calling her the Mother of God . . . None can say of her nor announce to her greater things, even though he had as many tongues as the earth possesses flowers and blades of grass: the sky, stars; and the sea, grains of sand. It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.

(Commentary on the Magnificat, 1521; in Luther’s Works, Pelikan et al, vol. 21, 326)


9 posted on 03/22/2014 8:49:55 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: narses

**She became the Mother of God**

Not possible. God has no beginning or ending, cannot be added to or decreased. God cannot die. The Son of God died. “Him God raised up”. (from Peter’s testamony to Cornelius. You would do well to read it again very slowly a few times. (Peter defines the Godhead much better than the RCC or Luther.)

“But to us there is but ONE GOD, the FATHER, OF WHOM are all things, and we IN him;(semi-colon) and one Lord Jesus Christ, BY WHOM are all things, and we BY him”. I Cor. 9:6 (Paul defines the Godhead much better than the RCC or Luther.)

verse 7: “Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge..”. (boy, that’s the truth!!)

**It needs to be pondered in the heart what it means to be the Mother of God.**

Neither Peter, or Paul, appear to have pondered such a gross misunderstanding of the scriptures.

Jesus explained the Godhead quite simply in John 4:23,24. and taught that the Father is in him, and he in the Father. He taught further that the Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father.

The Father is THE source of all things divine, and dwells, with unlimited power, in Jesus Christ.


14 posted on 03/22/2014 11:10:22 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: narses

Luther wasn’t a Protestant pope. He had in fact been Catholic, as we all know. Certainly, as the Bible says, I call Mary blessed among women, and as we frequently talk about in Biblle-believing churches, we should agree to what the Lord wants for us, in faith, as His servants, and we should “do whatever He, Jesus, tells us to do,” but the robbing of worship of God, and dependence on Him, which breaks the first of the Ten Commandments, I won’t do.
I so love the Lord that I will not be robbed in the relationship I have with Him to worship another creature, though she blessed among women. I still love Mary as “brethren” in Christ, and I love that the Lord blessed her so, and I see that spiritually God re-creates the same miracle when Jesus is born in the hearts of believers, and they are transformed into a new creature and taken from spiritual death to life, but I will try to as jealously guard my relationship with the Lord as He does our relationship. To make the choice to call on Mary for help and Cont’d


15 posted on 03/23/2014 12:11:54 AM PDT by Faith Presses On
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To: narses

protection, and to call her “my life, my sweetness, and my hope,” would mean I lose out On being with Lord Himself. Paul wrote that through Jesus’ sacrifice what had separated us from God had been torn down, so I will go to the Lord, and commune with Him. From reading and accepting the whole Bible, I also can do nothing else. “Sola Scriptura” does not mean Scripture and nothing else, as from what I recall there are even other solas. It only means, the Bible, and no, “yes, buts.” We’re actually to do as Mary did, trust and obey God.


16 posted on 03/23/2014 12:20:21 AM PDT by Faith Presses On
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