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To: CynicalBear; af_vet_1981; redleghunter
"Saint" Cynical,

Thanks for the information. This is from the article:

Preterism is the heresy which teaches that all eschatological events prophesied in Scripture have been fulfilled in the siege and sacking of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. They maintain that all of Scripture, including the Book of Revelation, was written prior to that date. Now, if John wrote Revelation after 70 A.D. and the fall of Jerusalem, Preterism falls apart, is totally refuted, and absolutely found to be false.

See, they don't think I am a preterist, either. Are you simply confirming that you have been mistaken in the past?

BTW, turn that last sentence on it's head: prove John wrote the Revelation prior to 70AD, and you will see the dispensational cult's entire house of cards crash and burn. What a day of rejoicing that will be!

This is the American Presbyterian Church

This church came out of the Bible Presbyterian Church. They were a group that was more Reformed and wanted to influence the church more in the direction of its professed standards (a modified version of the Westminster standards) and away from the Arminianism and dispensationalism of American Fundamentalism. For its testimony a number of its ministers were cast out of the church for founding a rival Seminary called Reformation Seminary. After their expulsion in 1976 they formed an Old School type Presbyterian church, holding to the regulative principle of worship, exclusive psalmody, no unscriptural holydays etc. They continued the Bible Presbyterian heritage of confessing premillennialism and temperance as the faith of the church.

It appears the American Presbyterian Church doesn't care so much for your cult. They must think there is a significant difference between premillennialism (which they profess) and dispensationalism (which they oppose.) Note they came from this bunch:

Bible Presbyterian Church

This was the other side in the split in the Presbyterian Church of America and was led by Carl McIntire. This was the faction that identified more with the New School tradition and with American Fundamentalism.

LOL! Who would have thunk it? There are more new-ager's than you can shake a stick at.

These are the guys I like most in the bunch:

Reformed Presbyterian Church in the United States

These was a small group that left the PCA to form a more conservative and Presbyterian body. Some of their pastors such as Dr. Morecroft have strong Theonomist leanings. They have since split into several smaller bodies including the RPCUS, Hanover Presbytery led by Dr. Edwin Eliot, the RPCUS, General Synod led by Dr. Kenneth Talbot, and the RPCUS, Covenant presbytery led by Dr. Joseph Morecraft.

Add to that list John Otis, a fine Reformed Presbyterian minister. Ken Gentry also may be part of them, but I am not certain. Anyway, they believe most of Matt 24 was fulfilled, and most of the Revelation up till Chapter 20. We differ on the number and timing of resurrections, and a few other odds and ends.

BTW, I see you are still pushing the Irenaeus-Dolmitian Date Myth.

Did you note that your "expert" witnesses, the American "Presbyterian Church," has also bought into the myth that Peter was killed in Rome. There is no record of any kind that Peter was ever in Rome. Of course, since you believe in the rapture myth and the dual-covenant myth, I am not surprised.

>>>Looks like you’re a Preterist but not a Presbyterian according to the official Presbyterian Church site.<<<

They are about as "official" for Presbyterians as the Federal Express is part of the Federal Government. You do understand that analogy, don't you. "Saint" Cynical?

Philip

264 posted on 03/28/2014 12:58:15 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: PhilipFreneau
>> See, they don't think I am a preterist, either.<<

Didn’t read the whole article ey? LOL Thought that would be the case when you got that far. Sorry dude. The article goes on to call what you believe Preterism and you a Preterist.

265 posted on 03/28/2014 1:15:38 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: PhilipFreneau; CynicalBear
BTW, turn that last sentence on it's head: prove John wrote the Revelation prior to 70AD, and you will see the dispensational cult's entire house of cards crash and burn. What a day of rejoicing that will be!

An interesting point. As it will not only have dispensationals crash like a house of cards, but all historic futurists (pre-millennials), Amillennials, Post-Millennials, the writings and understanding of the ECFs and every creed defining the second coming as future will come crashing down.

But those competing, in some areas, but agreeing on the most basic truths of a physical second coming future and resurrection and judgment, eschatologies of thousands of years must bend the knee to Phil's doctrine.

So Phil is right and all those other theologians looking at the same texts and human history were wrong! The second coming is past you say, but they say not so, but Phil is right because he says so.

272 posted on 03/28/2014 1:44:02 PM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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