You never answered mine. Answer mine, and I will answer yours.
Everyone, if you want to know how we ended up in this stalemate; this is the result of a classic, dispensational debating trick: when seriously challenged, redirect the debate to meaningless, philosophical hair-splitting. Start reading at post #154 to see what is being avoided.
Philip
I understand that its all meaningless to you Philip. What do you think all of us have been trying to do? Its trying to get you to understand what scripture is really saying. Alas, it seems futile still.