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To: Just mythoughts

>>>So Abraham is Christian? Right? And to say Abraham is dead is a non-answer, as his soul is still very much alive, as it is Written.<<<

I am unsure what you mean.


28 posted on 03/21/2014 12:22:34 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: PhilipFreneau
It is impossible to pick a chapter and verse and wall it outside the rest of the Bible. Most especially Genesis, as it was not Written as a first hand witness. What Moses penned was directly inspired by the Heavenly Father as foundation from which the rest of the prophets would build.

Obviously Abram - Abraham would be one of those Paul describes in Ephesians 1:4 ... chosen before the 'casting/down-overthrow of the world, is one of the 'elect'. Given that Christ/Emmanuel = God with us dealt directly with Abraham in the example Written of Melchizedek/Melchisedec.

The Promise was given to Abraham and that would be fulfilled down the history of the children of the promise in spite of their forgetfulness. Splitting apart into the House of Israel and House of Judah. Jeremiah 3:8 Part of the punishment to some of the children would be that they would not remember and know who they are. Yet that promise to Abraham would be fulfilled. This nation in part became fulfillment of that promise.

No other nation in history made as part of its founding that only The Creator gives unalienable rights: Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness. That was no accident. But we too have repeated the mistakes of other generations and took on in majority other gods.

To be Christian means that it is in, and only in Christ wherein salvation (life eternal) is offered. And Christ went to all those back to the days of Noah while in the tomb, three days and three nights to offer all of them salvation. IPeter chapters 3 and 4. I have no problem given the parable of the rich man that Abraham followed Christ and is a Christian in his spirit body.

Paul wrote in ICorinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

Genesis 22:15 And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,

16 And said, "By Myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld they son, thine only son:

17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy see as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore: and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;

18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed My voice."

A quick check of the historical record will demonstrate which nation(s) have fulfilled this promise.

32 posted on 03/21/2014 10:24:08 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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