Purima, The making of a King's Bride

Sabbath Night Live via Youtube ^ | Michael Rood

[CynicalBear]

Oh, now your on that “whole word” kick. Before it was that the New Testament was corrupted and couldn’t be trusted. Make up your mind man.

[Errant]

>> "Unlike Judah, Rood has not claimed the position of Prophet but routinely sets dates which do not come to pass."<<

So Rood just lies to dupe the rubes who follow him. What’s surprising about that?

How is that a lie? Most who are interested in eschatology try to determine if we are in the season spoken of in prophecy. Even your guy:

http://www.beaconoftruth.com/ch21.htm

[Errant]

Indeed E-S. When you can’t prove your argument, hammer the messenger, and if that doesn’t work, hammer the desk...

[CynicalBear]

>> since you can't argue the message.<<

The errors in Rood’s message have been listed ad nauseum in these threads and on the sites that have been listed.

[CynicalBear]

>>I only looked at the link YOU provided CB, not the entire website.<<

Yet you made an accusation against the entire group. People should take that as a hint of your investigation of what you believe.

[editor-surveyor]

It only takes the whole chapter to defeat your false theology.

Your postings are always clipped snipets of verses crafted to make the word appear to lie.
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[editor-surveyor]

You have yet to show so much as one error in any Rood presentation.

Yet we use scripture extensively to show the comprehansive error in your assertions.
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[Errant]

The errors in Rood’s message have been listed ad nauseum in these threads and on the sites that have been listed.

CB, as you and metmom well know, Michael Rood's "message" is 100% scripture attributable. Therefor you are in essence saying the Whole word of the Almighty is in error. Which btw, is exactly what you would have to believe, to believe your ideas that you don't have to repent or turn from a life of iniquity (i.e., sin).

[Errant]

Yet you made an accusation against the entire group.

What exactly did I accuse them of CB. If I'm not allowed to call you out for being a liar in the Religious Forum, then don't accuse me of doing something which I haven't done.

I simply assumed they were Rabbinical Jews, and attributed a disagreement with your faith, based on what I saw when I went to the link YOU provided. The proper thing would have been for YOU to offered some description of the sites you send folks to perhaps?

[Errant]

Here is another person that can explain it. I recommend a listen. They start getting into the real meat at about the 30 min mark.

TruNews.com (Today’s Guest : Pastor Sam Storms

Topic : Sam Storms, lead Pastor of Bridgeway Church in Oklahoma City, shares his well-versed perspective on the milenial reign and why he considers himeself an “Amillennialist.” Pastor Storms is the author of over 30 books including, “Kingdom Come: The Amillennial Alternative,” which he will be discussing today.

http://www.trunews.com/Audio/3_17_14_monday_trunews2.mp3

[Errant]

I don’t agree with Dr. Storms’ millennialism theory, as he likes to call it. I might have to get his book to see where he gets his ideas about it. The millennial reign is something I’m just now studying in depth, thanks to a Freeper who has me now interested in the subject.

[metmom]

So you're going to stick with attacking the messenger, since you can't argue the message. Hmm, that speaks volumes.

Well, we can sure point out the fact that his message is worthless because he makes predictions that do not come to pass.

And we have. He's a false prophet.

[Errant]

He's a false prophet.

Don't you think you first have to claim to be a prophet, like your guy, before you can be a "false" prophet. Even the site CB linked admits Michael Rood has never claimed to be a prophet. So why can't you???

[editor-surveyor]

I wouldn’t waste two seconds listening to an amillennialist.

Most of them are replacementarianists.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “Well, we can sure point out the fact that his message is worthless because he makes predictions that do not come to pass.” <<

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You have been asked to prove that nonsensical statement several times, and cannot.

Please stick with the truth.

[Errant]

It's interesting to hear a former pre-tribber talk about seeing his error and about how entrenched the belief is; to the point that he would not have been accepted into seminary had he believed otherwise.

It's also a story the other two need to hear, IMO. :-)

[editor-surveyor]

Amilliennialism is just as unscriptural as pretribism.

It is based mostly in antisemitism.
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[Errant]

Oh, I completely disagree with the concept of amilliennialism, as much as pretribism. I don't see how one could interpret scripture to arrive at such a conclusion (i.e., a belief in amilliennialism). Though I would be interested to hear his reasoning.

I was kind of shocked to learn that Rick Wiles has the same millennial view. Rick is certainly NOT a pre-trib believer and takes much heat about it. Maybe they both have a different version of the KJ?! Anyway, this whole millennial business has my interest peaked.

One other thing that's caught my attention is the rock that Mosses was suppose to declare and instead struck. It was suppose to be a shadow picture that was destroyed by Mosses' actions. Is it not tied to the prophecy of Daniel's of the rock striking the last beast with feet of iron and clay, smashing it to pieces, then growing to cover the world (i.e., the millennial reign)?

[editor-surveyor]

There is no scriptural reasoning for amillennialism.

The ‘reasoning’ for pre-trib-ism is the desire to reject God’s many declarations that his elect would experience “Great Tribulation.”

Rick Wiles has had numerous changes of belief systems in his life, and I’m sure that he will have a few more.

Moses was supposed to repeat his prophecy of Yeshua found in Deuteronomy 18, and expand upon it. He had a tantrum instead, and paid a price for it.

The millennial reign is guaranteed in the Revelation: “The kingdoms of the Earth have become the kingdoms of Yehova.”

Amillennialism makes most of Daniel, and the Revelation a lie. Who cares what his ‘reasoning’ is?
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[Errant]

Amillennialism makes most of Daniel, and the Revelation a lie. Who cares what his ‘reasoning’ is?

I spent a couple of hours last night researching. I have no idea what either one finds that leads them to a 'amillenialism' conclusion. I suppose that's what has me wondering how they could possibly come to such a conclusion; especially since these two both seem to be pretty smart individuals.

Rick Wiles has had numerous changes of belief systems in his life, and I’m sure that he will have a few more.

I won't hold that against him. In fact, I would encourage him to reconsider his 'amillenialism' conclusion! :)

Moses was supposed to repeat his prophecy of Yeshua found in Deuteronomy 18, and expand upon it.

Thanks, will check it out. I've got about 4 pages of notes on the millennial reign already. I didn't know how much I didn't know about what is written. The book of Isaiah opens up into a vista.