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To: PhilipFreneau
"There are two events noticeably absent from the passage:

1) There is no mention of a reign on earth of any kind."

Well, if you conveniently end your quote in verse 6, you can make that statement, but if you include the next few verses, you cannot:

"7When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves."

(Rev 20:7-9)

Satan gathers the nations from the four corner of the earth, and they march across the earth to get to Jerusalem, where God's people (spoken of in verses 4-6) are.

4 posted on 03/14/2014 4:48:21 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

I hope nobody in my church finds out that I am in agreement with the Boogieman!


6 posted on 03/14/2014 4:53:13 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Boogieman
>>>Well, if you conveniently end your quote in verse 6, you can make that statement, but if you include the next few verses, you cannot:<<<

I would have included those verses if they had anything to do with the first resurrection or the 1000 year reign with Christ.

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(Rev 20:7-9) Satan gathers the nations from the four corner of the earth, and they march across the earth to get to Jerusalem, where God's people (spoken of in verses 4-6) are.<<<

It doesn't say Jerusalem. That is a misnomer, invented out of thin air. What the verse actually says is:

"And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them."

The "breadth of the earth" means the entire earth, according to a dictionary. The camp of the saints is on heavenly mount Sion, as follows:

"Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit." (Eph 2:19-22 KJV)

The "chief cornerstone" mentioned in that passage was laid on mount Sion, as follows:

"Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion." (Ps 2:6 KJV)

"Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste." (Isa 28:16 KJV)

"Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded." (1 Pet 2:6 KJV)


The "beloved city" is the Church, the new Jerusalem, which is also on mount Sion:

"But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant ..." (Heb 12:22-24 KJV)

You are partly correct in that Satan is coming after God's people; but they are in the Church, not in Jerusalem.

Philip

14 posted on 03/14/2014 5:55:32 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: Boogieman
"Well, if you conveniently end your quote in verse 6, you can make that statement, but if you include the next few verses, you cannot:

Hmmmm. If that's the rule then apply it accross the board starting with John 3:16.

Read the next few after that verse:

John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world, to judge the world, but that the world may be saved by him.
John 3:18 He that believeth in him is not judged. But he that doth not believe, is already judged : because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:19 And this is the judgment : because the light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than the light : for their works were evil.
John 3:20 For every one that doth evil hateth the light, and cometh not to the light, that his works may not be reproved.
John 3:21 But he that doth truth, cometh to the light, that his works may be made manifest, because they are done in God.

So much for "Faith Alone" and "Once Saved Always Saved" both unless you make an exception to your own rule of reading verses in context.

50 posted on 03/15/2014 5:05:34 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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