Posted on 03/12/2014 7:27:58 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
I could almost have titled this post instead, There is a great disturbance in the Force. Because that is a pretty good analogy for what is going on.
Irrespective of concerns that some blogs or news sites may have a tendency towards hyperbole, just going with statements from the hierarchy of late is extremely troubling regarding defense and proclamation of the orthodox faith. To put it in blunt, political terms, it is as if there is recognition that there has been a sea change in opinion at the highest level of the Church from conservative to progressive, and ambitious men in positions of extreme import are falling all over themselves to correspond with the new ideological paradigm.
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We will never get over the Who Am I to Judge line famously spoken on a flight last summer
Cardinal Dolan now says bravo to a self-reported same-sex attracted college football player
An Italian archbishop now claims that it is time for the Church to open up to sodomite diversity
A German bishop and a young one, at that, declares that fornication is not a sin
A retired cardinal that the Pope has repeatedly endorsed writes a book undermining Catholic Dogma on marriage and chastity. A speech based on this book is read to a preparatory group of bishops in the run up to the Synod on marriage and the family.
Almost half the Germanic hierarchy is openly proclaiming heresy regarding matters related to marriage and sexuality
The UN over a month ago released a violently anti-Catholic report that basically derided the Church as one of the most evil institutions on the planet for its opposition to sexual immorality. To date, there has been no formal Vatican response of any substance.
There has been an increase in hostile rhetoric towards the traditional, or even orthodox, practice of the Faith from numerous elements in the hierarchy, starting with the highest level. The TLM is now derided as a fashion.
The hierarchy in SA has a different set of priorities than orthodoxy. The hierarchy in the USA is trapped by their Kumbayah PC tendencies. The hierarchy in Europe is corrupt.
God save His Church.
One thing the Catholic Church could do to reinforce its support for traditional heterosexual marriage and family units would be end its insane policy of mandatory celibacy for the clergy. Married heterosexual men should be permitted to serve in the clergy and set an example for other Catholics.
1) There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the Bible which mandates clerical celibacy. In fact priests in the Bible weremarried men icluding Moses’s brother Aaron.
2) The early popes, bishops, and priests were allowed to marry for the first ten centuries of Church history at least.
3) Mandatory clerical celibacy was implemented in the Middle Ages, largely institutionalized to prohibit the transfer of Church property.
4) Despite doctrine, tradition or history, the Catholic Church WILL allow married priests, the day the Priest shortage becomes so severe the crimp is becoming noticeable in the collection baskets.
In our archdiocese we already have a large number of married priests, converts from the Episcopalian Church, and they are every bit as good as the celibate single priests. I have also seen a large number of married deacons filling in the gaps. It took the Church many centuries to implement the policy of mandatory clerical celibacy, it will take time to end it too, it will be done gradually by osmosis I suspect.
The author is right. The revolution is back on. Some here choose to bury their heads in the sand. We can’t ignore the reality of what’s happening.
You mean “conservative” belief.
The only problem with the line is that it's Emperor Palpatine who first speaks it.
Well they allow married priests in the Eastern rites.
So in your opinion there is a parting of ways between “conservative” and “orthodox” Catholics in regard to these points?
Cardinal Dolan now says bravo to a self-reported same-sex attracted college football player
An Italian archbishop now claims that it is time for the Church to open up to sodomite diversity
A German bishop and a young one, at that, declares that fornication is not a sin
A retired cardinal that the Pope has repeatedly endorsed writes a book undermining Catholic Dogma on marriage and chastity. A speech based on this book is read to a preparatory group of bishops in the run up to the Synod on marriage and the family.
Almost half the Germanic hierarchy is openly proclaiming heresy regarding matters related to marriage and sexuality
The UN over a month ago released a violently anti-Catholic report that basically derided the Church as one of the most evil institutions on the planet for its opposition to sexual immorality. To date, there has been no formal Vatican response of any substance.
There has been an increase in hostile rhetoric towards the traditional, or even orthodox, practice of the Faith from numerous elements in the hierarchy, starting with the highest level. The TLM is now derided as a fashion.
I only use the word “orthodox” in regards to the Eastern Churches that is why.
Maintaining their comfort zone trumps reality in some cases, sad to say.
or·tho·dox
adjective
(of a person or their views, esp. religious or political ones, or other beliefs or practices) conforming to what is generally or traditionally accepted as right or true; established and approved.
“the orthodox economics of today”
synonyms: conservative, traditional, observant, devout, strict
Let’s face it. What’s going on is scary. As much as I criticize them, I was once there. I get it. At some point though, the Truth wins over Fear.
Fear not, for I am with thee: turn not aside, for I am thy God. I have strengthened thee and have helped thee: and the right hand of my just one hath upheld thee.
In Christianity’s early days, there was a diversity of belief among Christians. Then one faction pretty much stamped out all the others, and it set itself up as the “only” Christianity. It looks as if the diversity of belief around Christianity is beginning to return.
Amen! And I am not Catholic. Assembly of God who still believe in the entire Word, including speaking in tongues just as they did on Pentecost!
Amen! Being a Christian means that you believe in the teachings of Jesus. You believe in the many miracles He performed. You believe that He was crucified and rose on the third day.
I am a devout Catholic who loves my faith. But no Church has the right to rewrite history or rewrite the Bible. Some things the Church has made up out of whole cloth. Included in this list would be:
1) Mandatory clerical celibacy (totally nuts!)
2) The idea that Jesus’s mother Mary herself was born of an immaculate conception. Where is THAT mentioned in the Bible?
3) The notion that Mary was ALWAYS a virgin. Never mind the fact that she and Joseph had other children mentioned in the Bible.
4) The idea of papal infallibility is simply laughable. Popes are human too, therefore they are sinners and subject to errors and mistakes just like the rest of use mere mortals.
I once heard a testimony by a guy who was into the occult in high school and did seances and stuff with his friends. He eventually gave it up and went back to his Catholic faith. Through an odd coincidence, he happened to go with a friend to an Assembly of God church for something, and the congregation just gaped at him when they found out who he was. They had known all about his activities in his occult days and had been praying for him for a couple of years. They finally met him and knew that their prayers had been answered.
Sounds like a fine bunch of people to me.
And some Catholic posters blame Protestantism for the sorry state of the Catholic church today.
Seems like the rot is coming from within.
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