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There is a disturbing cascade against orthodox belief in the Church hierarchy
A Blog for Dallas Area Catholics ^ | 3/11/14 | tantamergo

Posted on 03/12/2014 7:27:58 AM PDT by BlatherNaut

I could almost have titled this post instead, “There is a great disturbance in the Force.” Because that is a pretty good analogy for what is going on.

Irrespective of concerns that some blogs or news sites may have a tendency towards hyperbole, just going with statements from the hierarchy of late is extremely troubling regarding defense and proclamation of the orthodox faith. To put it in blunt, political terms, it is as if there is recognition that there has been a sea change in opinion at the highest level of the Church from conservative to progressive, and ambitious men in positions of extreme import are falling all over themselves to correspond with the new ideological paradigm.

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To wit:

We will never get over the “Who Am I to Judge” line famously spoken on a flight last summer

Cardinal Dolan now says bravo to a self-reported same-sex attracted college football player

An Italian archbishop now claims that it is time for the Church to “open up” to sodomite “diversity”

A German bishop – and a young one, at that, declares that fornication is not a sin

A “retired” cardinal that the Pope has repeatedly endorsed writes a book undermining Catholic Dogma on marriage and chastity. A speech based on this book is read to a preparatory group of bishops in the run up to the “Synod on marriage and the family.”

Almost half the Germanic hierarchy is openly proclaiming heresy regarding matters related to marriage and sexuality

The UN over a month ago released a violently anti-Catholic report that basically derided the Church as one of the most evil institutions on the planet for its opposition to sexual immorality. To date, there has been no formal Vatican response of any substance.

There has been an increase in hostile rhetoric towards the traditional, or even orthodox, practice of the Faith from numerous elements in the hierarchy, starting with the highest level. The TLM is now derided as a “fashion.”

1 posted on 03/12/2014 7:27:58 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

The hierarchy in SA has a different set of priorities than orthodoxy. The hierarchy in the USA is trapped by their Kumbayah PC tendencies. The hierarchy in Europe is corrupt.
God save His Church.


2 posted on 03/12/2014 7:33:30 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: BlatherNaut

One thing the Catholic Church could do to reinforce its support for traditional heterosexual marriage and family units would be end its insane policy of mandatory celibacy for the clergy. Married heterosexual men should be permitted to serve in the clergy and set an example for other Catholics.

1) There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the Bible which mandates clerical celibacy. In fact priests in the Bible weremarried men icluding Moses’s brother Aaron.

2) The early popes, bishops, and priests were allowed to marry for the first ten centuries of Church history at least.

3) Mandatory clerical celibacy was implemented in the Middle Ages, largely institutionalized to prohibit the transfer of Church property.


3 posted on 03/12/2014 7:37:26 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

4) Despite doctrine, tradition or history, the Catholic Church WILL allow married priests, the day the Priest shortage becomes so severe the crimp is becoming noticeable in the collection baskets.


4 posted on 03/12/2014 7:39:44 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

In our archdiocese we already have a large number of married priests, converts from the Episcopalian Church, and they are every bit as good as the celibate single priests. I have also seen a large number of married deacons filling in the gaps. It took the Church many centuries to implement the policy of mandatory clerical celibacy, it will take time to end it too, it will be done gradually by osmosis I suspect.


5 posted on 03/12/2014 7:45:11 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: BlatherNaut

The author is right. The revolution is back on. Some here choose to bury their heads in the sand. We can’t ignore the reality of what’s happening.


6 posted on 03/12/2014 7:48:32 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: BlatherNaut

You mean “conservative” belief.


7 posted on 03/12/2014 7:59:26 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: BlatherNaut
I could almost have titled this post instead, “There is a great disturbance in the Force.” Because that is a pretty good analogy for what is going on.

The only problem with the line is that it's Emperor Palpatine who first speaks it.

8 posted on 03/12/2014 8:06:08 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Well they allow married priests in the Eastern rites.


9 posted on 03/12/2014 8:10:59 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

So in your opinion there is a parting of ways between “conservative” and “orthodox” Catholics in regard to these points?


To whit:
We will never get over the “Who Am I to Judge” line famously spoken on a flight last summer

Cardinal Dolan now says bravo to a self-reported same-sex attracted college football player

An Italian archbishop now claims that it is time for the Church to “open up” to sodomite “diversity”

A German bishop – and a young one, at that, declares that fornication is not a sin

A “retired” cardinal that the Pope has repeatedly endorsed writes a book undermining Catholic Dogma on marriage and chastity. A speech based on this book is read to a preparatory group of bishops in the run up to the “Synod on marriage and the family.”

Almost half the Germanic hierarchy is openly proclaiming heresy regarding matters related to marriage and sexuality

The UN over a month ago released a violently anti-Catholic report that basically derided the Church as one of the most evil institutions on the planet for its opposition to sexual immorality. To date, there has been no formal Vatican response of any substance.

There has been an increase in hostile rhetoric towards the traditional, or even orthodox, practice of the Faith from numerous elements in the hierarchy, starting with the highest level. The TLM is now derided as a “fashion.”


10 posted on 03/12/2014 8:11:10 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

I only use the word “orthodox” in regards to the Eastern Churches that is why.


11 posted on 03/12/2014 8:13:10 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: irishjuggler
Some here choose to bury their heads in the sand. We can’t ignore the reality of what’s happening.

Maintaining their comfort zone trumps reality in some cases, sad to say.

12 posted on 03/12/2014 8:16:13 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Biggirl

or·tho·dox

adjective

(of a person or their views, esp. religious or political ones, or other beliefs or practices) conforming to what is generally or traditionally accepted as right or true; established and approved.
“the orthodox economics of today”
synonyms: conservative, traditional, observant, devout, strict


13 posted on 03/12/2014 8:18:22 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

Let’s face it. What’s going on is scary. As much as I criticize them, I was once there. I get it. At some point though, the Truth wins over Fear.


14 posted on 03/12/2014 8:18:59 AM PDT by piusv
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At some point though, the Truth wins over Fear.

Fear not, for I am with thee: turn not aside, for I am thy God. I have strengthened thee and have helped thee: and the right hand of my just one hath upheld thee.

15 posted on 03/12/2014 8:31:30 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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In Christianity’s early days, there was a diversity of belief among Christians. Then one faction pretty much stamped out all the others, and it set itself up as the “only” Christianity. It looks as if the diversity of belief around Christianity is beginning to return.


16 posted on 03/12/2014 9:23:18 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Amen! And I am not Catholic. Assembly of God who still believe in the entire Word, including speaking in tongues just as they did on Pentecost!


17 posted on 03/12/2014 9:32:22 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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Amen! Being a Christian means that you believe in the teachings of Jesus. You believe in the many miracles He performed. You believe that He was crucified and rose on the third day.

I am a devout Catholic who loves my faith. But no Church has the right to rewrite history or rewrite the Bible. Some things the Church has made up out of whole cloth. Included in this list would be:

1) Mandatory clerical celibacy (totally nuts!)
2) The idea that Jesus’s mother Mary herself was born of an immaculate conception. Where is THAT mentioned in the Bible?
3) The notion that Mary was ALWAYS a virgin. Never mind the fact that she and Joseph had other children mentioned in the Bible.
4) The idea of papal infallibility is simply laughable. Popes are human too, therefore they are sinners and subject to errors and mistakes just like the rest of use mere mortals.


18 posted on 03/12/2014 10:04:16 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: GailA

I once heard a testimony by a guy who was into the occult in high school and did seances and stuff with his friends. He eventually gave it up and went back to his Catholic faith. Through an odd coincidence, he happened to go with a friend to an Assembly of God church for something, and the congregation just gaped at him when they found out who he was. They had known all about his activities in his occult days and had been praying for him for a couple of years. They finally met him and knew that their prayers had been answered.

Sounds like a fine bunch of people to me.


19 posted on 03/12/2014 10:04:50 AM PDT by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: BlatherNaut

And some Catholic posters blame Protestantism for the sorry state of the Catholic church today.

Seems like the rot is coming from within.


20 posted on 03/12/2014 10:15:17 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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