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To: CynicalBear; DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; redleghunter
You would have to take that up with Strong, Thayer, NASEC, and others. They are the experts I quoted. I'm not sure where you get your information.

I don't have to take it up with anyone. Your own sources tell you that 'Jesus' is a transliteration of the Hebrew Yeshua. They affirm that 'Yeshua' is the contracted form of 'Yahoshua'. You may not know, but Joshua's actual name was Hoshea or Hosea which is 'deliverer' and is from the root 'yasha' (salvation) The name was changed by Moshe to 'Yahoshua' which means 'YHWH will save', or 'YHWH is salvation'.

Now, to actually contract 'Yahoshua', it should look like Yah'Shua or Y'Shua - But by 2nd temple time, 'Yeshua' is the accepted contraction. So while it still figuratively means 'YHWH is salvation' by it's derivation from Yahoshua, It also literally means 'He is salvation' or 'He will save'... Assuming you know that there was no 'J' in Hebrew, therefore 'Y', you will find 'Yeshua' in Strong's under 'Jeshua':

H3442
ישׁוּע
yêshûa‛
yah-shoo'-ah

For H3091; he will save; Jeshua, the name of two Israelites, also of a place in Palestine: - Jeshua.

(e-Sword:Strong's)
A primary aside is to look at the Zadok and Joshua prophecies, where Yehoshua and Yeshua are used interchangeably - Both the 'deliverer' and the 'righteous High Priest' are the only places the two are interchangeable. Remember Yeshua pointing thing out to His disciples in the Tanakh and saying, 'see, this is me!' ??? Hence we know it is a 'familiar' contraction.

BUT, the Tanakh was not delivered with vowel pointers... So one has to wonder about ANYWHERE the root 'yasha', or derivations of 'yasha' are used... Because without the vowels, they all are 'yasha' - SO, one can maybe find some more:

Isa 62:11 Behold, Jehovah has sent a message to the end of the earth, Tell the daughter of Zion, Behold, your salvation [yasha / Yeshua] comes. Behold, His reward is with Him, and His work before Him.

How does 'salvation' have a male possessive? I will tell you how: His name is Yeshua.

38 posted on 03/12/2014 6:28:50 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1; DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; redleghunter

The New Testament was written in Greek not Hebrew. In addition. We speak English not Hebrew. If you want to play the sacred name game don’t try to force it on others. The apostles were given the gift of tongues so all could here “in their own language”. If those who ascribe to the sacred name cult want to be consistent and not hypocrites they had better stop referring to (hard J) Jerusalem, the (hard J) book of John, the (hard J) Jews, the land of (hard J) Judah and all begin to speak Hebrew.


39 posted on 03/13/2014 3:00:38 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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