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To: taxcontrol
Bad analogy - the church did not write the Bible

sure it did...only the Catholic church was there at the time. They edited it, wrote it, copied it (by hand), and preserved it through 2,000 years so that you would have it to enjoy.....say "Thanks Catholics"!!!

53 posted on 03/07/2014 8:09:10 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all else)
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To: terycarl; taxcontrol; xone; Gamecock
sure it did...only the Catholic church was there at the time. They edited it, wrote it, copied it (by hand), and preserved it through 2,000 years so that you would have it to enjoy.....say "Thanks Catholics"!!!

That is amazing, since most of Scripture existed before there was a church even in Rome, while making the NT church into that of Rome today is two different things .

But i am interested in the polemical logic behind this oft-repeated we-gave-you-the-Bible assertion. Are you arguing that being the steward of Scripture makes them the infallible authority on it, so that those who dissent from them are rebels against God? And if this is not the argument, then what worth is the assertion at issue?

It also follows that if this statement is supposed to provide warrant to submit to the magisterium of Rome, then no one could have assurance of Truth, and of writings being Scripture, before they decreed what this and what they were. Affirm or deny?

63 posted on 03/08/2014 7:45:27 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: terycarl

“... only the Catholic church was there at the time.”

Sorry but you are incorrect. First a bit of history. The 27 books that form the New Testament were first codified by Athanasius of Alexandria (A.D. 296-373). He was the most prominent theologian of the fourth century, and he served as bishop of Alexandria. The Church in Alexandria was formed by the Apostle Mark and is now known as the Coptic (meaning Egyptian) Church.

His list of canonical books was published as part of his Thirty-Ninth Festal Epistle of A.D. 367. After the list he declares, “these are the wells of salvation, so that he who thirsts may be satisfied with the sayings in these. Let no one add to these. Let nothing be taken away.”

It was not until A.D. 380 when the roman church became the official state religion under Emperor Theodosius I. Thus at a minimum, the Coptic (Egyptian) tradition is equal and parallel in timeline to the Roman tradition. Further, since it was a Coptic Bishop who identified the 27 books in the 367 epistle, the canon of the New Testament does NOT come from the Roman tradition.


92 posted on 03/08/2014 1:20:09 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: terycarl
sure it did...only the Catholic church was there at the time. They edited it, wrote it, copied it (by hand), and preserved it through 2,000 years so that you would have it to enjoy.....say "Thanks Catholics"!!!

They wrote the OT, thousands of years before the Catholic church even existed.

That's pretty impressive.

What gall to take credit for itself the work of God.

We have the Bible. Say *Thanks Holy Spirit*.

109 posted on 03/08/2014 2:52:36 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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