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Pope Francis' Popularity not Bringing More into Catholic Church
The Los Angeles Times ^
| 3/5/14
| Kurt Streeter
Posted on 03/06/2014 5:00:32 PM PST by marshmallow
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Unsurprising. The Pope's message, at least as perceived by the world (rightly or wrongly), does not appear to stress the importance or pre-eminence of Catholic theology nor the urgency of conversion. On the contrary, he appears to say "be a good Anglican, be a good Muslim" and his "popularity" is due to the perception of him being opposed to most of what the world opposes in Catholicism; changeless doctrine, moral absolutes, and tradition. That sort of "popularity" doesn't bring converts.
To: marshmallow
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posted on
03/06/2014 5:02:22 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: marshmallow
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posted on
03/06/2014 5:02:56 PM PST
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: marshmallow
From the LATinmes? LOL!
Glad you believe them. I don’t.
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posted on
03/06/2014 5:03:17 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Gamecock
....the poll found no change in the number of people who self-identify as Catholic or in the number sitting in church pews on Sundays. Twenty-two percent of those surveyed described themselves as Catholic, the same figure as in the year preceding Francis' election. Forty percent said they attended Mass at least once a week, unchanged from just before the papal transition. While the survey found a significant increase in the excitement Catholics are feeling about their faith, there wasn't evidence they are volunteering or attending confession more.
Oops.
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posted on
03/06/2014 5:04:18 PM PST
by
Alex Murphy
("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
To: marshmallow
Considering that the vast majority of Catholics who enter the church enter at Easter it is a particularly poor time to conduct the survey.
The way to track the Francis effect would be to compare the size of RCIA classes from one year to the next.
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posted on
03/06/2014 5:05:40 PM PST
by
rwilson99
(Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
To: marshmallow
The modern Catholic Church is not evangelical, in my opinion. I wouldn’t expect that to change.
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posted on
03/06/2014 5:19:13 PM PST
by
Burkean
(.)
To: marshmallow
The modern Catholic Church is not evangelical, in my opinion. I wouldn’t expect that to change.
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posted on
03/06/2014 5:33:19 PM PST
by
Burkean
(.)
To: rwilson99
I teach an RCIA class. This year’s crop is no larger than normal.
This pope will probably attract a good number of converts, but also convince a great many more lukewarm Catholics that they have no particular reason to keep coming round.
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posted on
03/06/2014 6:24:48 PM PST
by
Romulus
To: Salvation
You only trust NBC as a source?
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posted on
03/06/2014 6:56:00 PM PST
by
ansel12
To: Romulus
This pope will probably attract a good number of converts, but also convince a great many more lukewarm Catholics that they have no particular reason to keep coming round. And convince a number of very devout and observant traditional Catholics that maybe some of the independent Catholic groups are worth considering.
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posted on
03/06/2014 6:58:30 PM PST
by
steve86
(Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
To: marshmallow
The Pope's message, at least as perceived by the world (rightly or wrongly), does not appear to stress the importance or pre-eminence of Catholic theology nor the urgency of conversion. On the contrary, he appears to say "be a good Anglican, be a good Muslim" and his "popularity" is due to the perception of him being opposed to most of what the world opposes in Catholicism; changeless doctrine, moral absolutes, and tradition. Very astute observations.
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posted on
03/06/2014 7:00:13 PM PST
by
steve86
(Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
To: Burkean
**The modern Catholic Church is not evangelical**
And just how do you know that?
Many Catholic Churches are growing by leaps and bounds because there is a Holy Spirit filled energy within them — that’s evangelical!
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posted on
03/06/2014 9:14:46 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: ansel12
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posted on
03/06/2014 9:15:43 PM PST
by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: Salvation
I was merely wondering how much difference you saw between the LA Times, versus the source you posted, NBC.
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posted on
03/06/2014 9:20:05 PM PST
by
ansel12
(Whow)
To: Romulus
And that’s about what my assessment is too... Give the guy 5-10 years and see what he accomplishes in terms of reform of the beuracracy and most importantly in my book... Who our new bishop will be in two years.
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posted on
03/07/2014 1:59:59 AM PST
by
rwilson99
(Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
To: ansel12
Exactly. This talk of “media bias of MSM sources” is a bunch of hooey. MSM sources are totally accurate when they report what one believes.
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posted on
03/07/2014 2:46:11 AM PST
by
piusv
To: marshmallow
This might not be a popular post, but I will give you my observations as a Protestant who married a Catholic, and has attended Catholic services for over 25 years:
(1)Catholics generally do not know the bible. Cathecism apparently focused more on Dogma than scripture. Frame that picture versus VBS and Sunday School which drilled chapter and verse like crazy. I am often floored by how they don't know
(2)Overstructured services that vary little, are counterproductive toward recharging the heart.
(3)Homilies focus more on church doctrine and position than on people's personal lives.
(4)Clergy are generally but not exclusively less personable than Protestant counterparts.
(5)Catholics grow their faith more through threats than good PR/deeds. I will be nice and not go into details, and will entertain examples if needed though freepmail.
On the other hand, I am a history buff, and find it fascinating that this faith has remained intact for almost 2000 years. I also see why all my ancestors left it 300-500 years ago too.
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posted on
03/07/2014 3:10:38 AM PST
by
catfish1957
(Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
To: marshmallow
Wow, that REALLY surprises me.
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posted on
03/07/2014 4:04:35 AM PST
by
Biggirl
(“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
To: marshmallow
Maybe he is trying to be a PEACEMAKER first, speaking about the Gospel of Christ to a very troubled world.
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posted on
03/07/2014 4:06:09 AM PST
by
Biggirl
(“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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