[NYer]

There may be some contradiction between the two there after all. I still don’t know for a fact, since this is the NY Slimes.

The most disturbing aspect of this discussion is watching catholics source secular media (CNN, NYT) to support their absurd concerns. Yes .. absurd! I will be posting another thread from a traditionalist catholic priest's blog.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

There’s only so much you can credibly blame the media for this. At some point you gotta admit it’s not all media spin. Maybe a big part of it. But not all of it.