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Ken Ham Explains Why AiG Is Building a Giant Ark Instead of Spending Money to Feed the Hungry
Christian Post ^ | 03/04/2014 | Stoyan Zaimov

Posted on 03/04/2014 6:53:38 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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41 posted on 03/05/2014 9:01:16 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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42 posted on 03/05/2014 9:02:00 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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43 posted on 03/05/2014 9:02:26 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Heart of Georgia

I believe the accuser was none other than Judas himself...

“that perfume could have been sold and the money given to the poor (or found its way into my pocket)”


44 posted on 03/05/2014 9:04:03 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Yes, I suppose they don’t have bigger issues in their lives. They used to call them busibodies.

Me, I don’t worry at all what other people do with their money — as long as they didn’t use my money for something other than intended.

But no matter what, there will always be a critic standing on the sidelines, ready to pounce. It seems to be driven by maybe greed, or jealousy, or a controlling and critical personality. Maybe with a bit of self-righteousness mixed in — because they always know how it should have been handled.


45 posted on 03/05/2014 9:26:49 AM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: Secret Agent Man

Sorry, I don’t have to prove that AiG “ignored the poor.”

It’s a matter of appearances. Surely you understand that?


46 posted on 03/05/2014 10:03:41 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: DoodleDawg

Sorry, they are not just another “corporation.”

They hang a lot of what they do on promoting Christianity. That brings with it a set of responsibilities that secular corporations do not have. They are indeed due more criticism if they cannot or will not do appropriate levels of funding for a project such as this.

Like I said upthread, a project in the tens of millions of dollars seems to me to be wasteful.


47 posted on 03/05/2014 10:06:29 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: demshateGod

No worries.


48 posted on 03/05/2014 10:07:43 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: sauropod

sure, you are adopting the liberal philosophy that the seriousness of the charges trumps the lack of evidence. i totally get where you’re coming from.


49 posted on 03/05/2014 10:08:56 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: MortMan

Nonsense. Nothing at all to do with “self-righteousness.”

Do I really need to trot out the verse for you about not being a stumbling block to others?


50 posted on 03/05/2014 10:09:09 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Secret Agent Man

Believe it if you want, little buddy.

We’re done.


51 posted on 03/05/2014 10:10:16 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: sauropod

shouldn’t be building christian palaces....

what about the vatican? all the shrines to various folks? all the money that’s made off the visitors to these places in the gift shops?

if we will begin now condemning should we not just pick on one ministy group? should we not begin to criticize all who are building these palaces and shrines?


52 posted on 03/05/2014 10:14:08 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: sauropod

is every “poor” person deserving of help just because they are poor? is the widow who is poor the same to you as the guy who’s poor because he won’t work?

how are you defining poor? where is your dollar cutoff number? you are obviously concerned about money so you must have a value that defines who “the poor” is.

are we including the poor in spirit here too? ones that may have their faith strengthened going through such an exhibit? ones that may go through this and come to a saving faith in Christ?


53 posted on 03/05/2014 10:19:56 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Heart of Georgia

I think in this case, though, that the critics are really worried about the evangelical potential of a real size Ark. This thing is going to be visible from the junction of two major interstate highways.


54 posted on 03/05/2014 10:28:41 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: sauropod
Honestly you can say that about any religious organization that doesn't devote the bulk of its money to feeding the poor. The Creation Museum is a circus side show. It is, as you aptly pointed out earlier, akin to Dollywood. It is not an educational site any more than it's really a religious site. It's a business, no more and no less.
55 posted on 03/05/2014 10:35:08 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: sauropod

Trot out whatever verse you would like.

The basis of the criticism is certainly self righteousness, assuming that the money was raised specifically for the ark project.

It is a case of “Why didn’t you spend the money on what *I* want you to?”


56 posted on 03/05/2014 10:36:07 AM PST by MortMan (Is a delayed shower a "stay of exablution"?)
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To: MrB

I’m sure that’s true. I spoke generally and shouldn’t have.

I’ll say this, as for Christians who are critical about these things, I believe many of them speak from the hurt they experienced as children who did without necessities, specifically, being hungry.

They may never get over that childhood hurt, and if some of the critics are coming at it from this perspective, I pray they’ll be healed of this hurt and come to see the ministry angle of such projects.


57 posted on 03/05/2014 12:18:28 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: sauropod
It can probably be built much cheaper than what is planned.

How much do you think it can be built for?

58 posted on 03/05/2014 4:46:12 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

My criticism *does* apply to all of them. This thread and article just happens to be facilitating the discussion.


59 posted on 03/06/2014 6:03:16 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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is every “poor” person deserving of help just because they are poor? is the widow who is poor the same to you as the guy who’s poor because he won’t work?

Look,

A couple of things. I don't live in the best neighborhood. There is rampant drug use, homelessness, alcoholism, prostitution, and sloth. Lots of Section 8 too.

A lot of the people that are homeless choose to be that way. They are sucking off the system because they can. I do not give to those people. I have been burned before, more than once.

I give to orgs like the Salvation Army and Sunday Breakfast Mission, and Mercury One. I write in the memo section on the check "for foodstuffs only." That way, the receiver of the money knows what it is intended for.

how are you defining poor? where is your dollar cutoff number? you are obviously concerned about money so you must have a value that defines who “the poor” is.

It's not our place to define who is "poor." We are to be responsible stewards of God's money. That's it.

are we including the poor in spirit here too? ones that may have their faith strengthened going through such an exhibit? ones that may go through this and come to a saving faith in Christ?

I understand God giving people trials to strengthen their faith - believe me. I also understand that somewhere there is a verse that basically states that we may entertain angels unawares so be careful how one conducts himself. And there is another - I think it was Jesus - who said (paraphrasing) you fed and clothed the downtrodden, it was just like feeding and clothing Me.

These last couple of verses is my motivation. 'Pod

60 posted on 03/06/2014 6:13:55 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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