[gusopol3]

He can’t get past the anatomy , so he doesn’t mention it ( please excuse me if he does, I didn’t labor over reading it ,though I read it all). His lumping it with heterosexual activities such as adultery, pornography, masturbation, etc, which I agree are just as sinful, overlooks the fact that none of these are the basis of a poitical movement and are sooner or later recognized as shameful.

[sitetest]

Dear gusopol3,

“... overlooks the fact that none of these are the basis of a poitical movement and are sooner or later recognized as shameful.”

I think that's kind of his point, that by creating this idea of stable “sexual orientation” as a part of a person's innate personality, we have elevated a sin to a lifestyle in a way that we don't with things like adultery, etc.

Thus, I think he would ask you this - Is someone who experiences, from time to time, twinges of temptation to commit adultery, but who fails in anyway, either mentally or physically, to act on those twinges of temptation, an adulterer? Of course not!

If someone experienced same-sex attractions from time to time, but failed to act on that attraction in any way, neither mentally nor physically, not even fantasizing about it, should that person be labeled “homosexual”? The author is saying that that's reification of an act or even just a feeling, even an involuntary one, into a personality attribute.

sitetest

[Mrs. Don-o]

Adultery, pornography and masturbation are not now "the basis of a political movement" because they WERE the basis of a political movement 50 - 100 years ago, and they won.

Adultery, pornography and contraceptives were once illegal, you know --- in criminal law --- and now they are ubiquitous. Playboy magazine's editors and lawyers and their pornographic allies slogged their way through the courts, from the 1950's until just fairly recently, when all restraint quietly fell away. You didn't notice it, perhaps, but there was a fight. You didn't notice it, but they won.

The victorious political movement that brought us the moral perversions of publically admired adultery, contraception, porn and masturbation has now moved on to the mainstreaming of the many forms of sodomy/onanism -- the overall Biblical word would be porneia --- which are now a bit outre, but soon to be mainstreamed as well.