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To: af_vet_1981
Preterists have a problem with that “temple” argument. Daniel called it the “abomination of desolation” where the antichrist stands in the temple and calls himself God.

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place,

We can know what was referred to as the Holy Place by looking again at scripture.

Acts 21:28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.

Besides not only does the antichrist sign a peace treaty first but then the antichrist puts an end to the sacrifices then sets himself up as God in the Holy Place.

Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

They can’t tell us who it was prior to 70AD that signed a peace treaty with Israel then stopped the sacrifice and set himself up as God in the “Holy Place” aka Temple?

296 posted on 02/27/2014 4:19:15 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear; PhilipFreneau

CB nothing to see here. Another incomplete attempt at trying to prove other views wrong. I do give Phil my deepest respect for actually trying to present his views without comparison. First ever attempt that I know of at any site I frequent.

Phil as you stated you have some work to do. I respect the honesty. Ping us when you are complete.


298 posted on 02/27/2014 5:28:32 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: CynicalBear; af_vet_1981
>>>Daniel called it the “abomination of desolation” where the antichrist stands in the temple and calls himself God.<<<

>>>Besides not only does the antichrist sign a peace treaty first but then the antichrist puts an end to the sacrifices then sets himself up as God in the Holy Place.<<<

"Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

Cynical Bear, you have completely misinterpreted Daniel 9:27 if you think it has anything to do with the abomination of desolation that Jesus spoke of; or of some imaginary antichrist. The abomination of desolation Jesus was speaking of occurred when Antiochus IV took away the daily sacrifice and set the image of Jupiter upon the altar. This is from an 1884 Jamieson, Fausset & Brown commentary on Daniel chapter 12:

"As to this epoch, which probably is prophetically germinant and manifold; the profanation of the temple by Antiochus: (in the month Ijar of the year 145 B. C., till the restoration of the worship by Judas Maccabeus on the twenty-fifth day of the ninth month (Chisleu) of 148 B. C., according to the Seleucid era, 1290 days; forty-five days more elapsed before Antiochus’ death in the month Shebat of 148 B. C., so ending the Jews’ calamities;"

There! The 1290 day and 1335 day mysteries are instantly solved: 1290 days of profanation, and another 45 days until the evil one was dead. That bit about Antiochus IV, by the way, is fairly common knowledge. You can read it about in Josephus, 1st Maccabees, and about a zillion commentaries on Daniel.

Think about it: how could the Jews know what to look for if a similar event had not already been fulfilled and was a part of their history? Daniel 9:27 certainly doesn't tell you much.

Philip

303 posted on 02/27/2014 6:50:49 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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