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Biblical teaching on the use of colorful and harsh language.
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 2/18/2014 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 02/19/2014 1:50:16 AM PST by markomalley

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1 posted on 02/19/2014 1:50:17 AM PST by markomalley
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Msgr Pope ping


2 posted on 02/19/2014 1:50:54 AM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

If I stub my toe, hit my thumb with a hammer or spill a cup of coffee and there’s no one else in the room, does my use of colorful and harsh language make a sound?


3 posted on 02/19/2014 2:45:21 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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Ping!


4 posted on 02/19/2014 3:05:12 AM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: equaviator

Only your pets know for sure.


5 posted on 02/19/2014 3:19:15 AM PST by Tax-chick (The future is not going to take us seriously.)
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“Only your pets know for sure.”

And when the dog leaves a big steaming pile for me to step in, I must’ve had it coming. It’s kind of like thinking that if I curse the weather, it’ll just get worse. Not really but...


6 posted on 02/19/2014 4:06:14 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator

I have a cat who leaves me a Spew at least once a day.


7 posted on 02/19/2014 4:30:39 AM PST by Tax-chick (The future is not going to take us seriously.)
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To: markomalley

Much from American cultural heritage comes from America’s Christian past. It is Christian Civilization that is civil; not pagan, not Jewish, not Buddhist nor what have you.

Jesus teaches civility because He wants us to build a Christian Civilization, much unlike the one He walked in.

If the gang of obamabots gets its way, American civility will be gone in short order.


8 posted on 02/19/2014 5:17:03 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

I believe there is a time and place for expressing anger and the use of profanity can help articulate that. In other words, it helps to get their attention.


9 posted on 02/19/2014 6:07:33 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: markomalley

Much of the “gentleness” of the culture is just the dominant femininity of the culture. But we can’t be light and salt without stepping on toes. God tells us to warn of the wrath to come and that’s not a popular message, not when people love their sin. We also can’t adequately conduct church discipline without stepping on toes and casting the unrepentant from us.


10 posted on 02/19/2014 7:33:53 AM PST by afsnco
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To: markomalley

I try to tell people outright that the language they just heard offends me and leave it at that.

Sometimes I will just walk away.


11 posted on 02/19/2014 7:54:44 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: equaviator
So are you saying that you do not believe in the Second Commandment?

The Ten Commandments

 

1. I am the LORD your God: you shall not have strange Gods before me.

2. You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.

3. Remember to keep holy the LORD'S Day.

4. Honor your father and your mother.

5. You shall not kill.

6. You shall not commit adultery

7. You shall not steal.

8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

9. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.

10. You shall not covet your neighbor's goods.


12 posted on 02/19/2014 12:15:49 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
I try to tell people outright that the language they just heard spoke offends me and leave it at that.
13 posted on 02/19/2014 12:16:54 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley

There is another applicable Biblical reference in Deuteronomy 23 where God requires his people to dig a hole and relieve themselves outside the camp and refers to their waste as “indecent.”

I agree that it is indecent and I don’t enjoy hearing it inserted into the conversation with vulgar language.

Being offended by something doesn’t mean you think you are somehow “better” or more holy than anyone else. We are all condemned sinners having no righteousness of our own. However, as we put on the righteousness of Christ and grow in our faith, we become more sensitive to the contrast between the sacred and the profane.


14 posted on 02/19/2014 12:33:48 PM PST by Drawsing (Fools show their annoyance at once, the prudent man overlooks an insult. Proverbs 12:16)
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To: Salvation

Thanks. How much do I owe you?


15 posted on 02/19/2014 1:10:37 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Salvation

I try not to use bad language, but if I hear terrible news or hear something outrageously stupid(like from you know who) then sometimes one or two just slip out.


16 posted on 02/19/2014 1:21:07 PM PST by darkangel82
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Here’s a story. A long time ago I was involved in a political forum of libertarian persuasion, now defunct. The forum got overrun by diverse opinion-makers, none of them really libertarian and most just posted whatever would pop in their heads. Some were outright disruptive. It became impossible to have a calm discussion about anything. I was trying to impress on the forum management that posts must be moderated so that disruptions, — offtopic posts, large graphics, flamebaits, personal attacks — are edited or removed. I had no luck with that proposition, so I changed the tactic: I started using abusive language myself whenever I felt like it. From a generally polite guy that most people know me I became an embodiment of Tourette syndrome. And — nothing happened. The management just accepted the fact that I use foul language. No moderation was introduced, I got myself a bad reputation, and the forum folded.

The moral of this story? I don’t think foul language is ever useful. It just lowers the plank for everyone else.


17 posted on 02/19/2014 5:37:19 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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I get the impression that just talking about the use of profanity (without having given examples here) and expression of anger (without having done so here) is tantamount to the actual use of profanity and actual expression of anger here in this thread. If I let it happen elsewhere then why should anyone else here be concerned? I’m no less a civilized American citizen for it.

Personally, I think the whole idea of “zero tolerance” appeals to ‘maturity snobs’ more than anyone else and that it does more harm than good.


18 posted on 02/20/2014 2:40:20 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator

I disagree that talking about a form of speech is the same as using it. The former does not expand the vocabulary of the thread. Similarly talking about murder is not the same as committing murders.


19 posted on 02/20/2014 5:25:00 AM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

Just as having conversations about race (Holder, Obama) and “climate change” (Obama, Kerry) does nothing to
solve any of those so-called problems no matter how far they think it takes them.


20 posted on 02/20/2014 6:14:03 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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