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To: ansel12; Arthur McGowan
Of course, read the post, I described him as being a temple Mormon, like Beck and Mitt Romney, that means they are all of the holiest and most devout Mormons, and they are examined separately by a Bishop and the stake president every two years to prove it, and are then issued official ID which they must renew annually to enter the secret and holy Temples which are forbidden to average Mormons and partake in the secret ceremonies of the elites,

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That is such boloney Ansell how you spin this and take it out of context how someone who never even been in one of our temples seems to think they know what goes on there...

Every temple I have attended over 30 years, unless I was with my ward members I had no clue what were the status of other members.

When one makes covenant to the Lord they are asked if they have been faithful to their vows, and the renewal is every two years, everyone is the same in the Lord's eyes no one is an elitist, the house of the Lord is for everyone who makes and honor their covenant.

When you are in the temple every one dresses the same no one knows if one is plumber or a lawyer etc.

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(such as converting Catholic Popes).

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no one can convert another so that was a falsehood Ansell it is a gift offer vicariously just like when you are born Jesus made a vicarious gift to you to receive it or to decline.

The conversion come by the power of the Holy Ghost no other way.

No one is forcing anyone we all still have our agency beyond the veil to choose.

165 posted on 02/15/2014 9:11:23 PM PST by restornu (Wakeup We cant control our toilets, light bulbs, nor our planet http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/)
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To: restornu

What was baloney, are you claiming that anyone can attend the Temples?

Tell me specifically what is untrue in the post you said is untrue.

Here it is again———”Of course, read the post, I described him as being a temple Mormon, like Beck and Mitt Romney, that means they are all of the holiest and most devout Mormons, and they are examined separately by a Bishop and the stake president every two years to prove it, and are then issued official ID which they must renew annually to enter the secret and holy Temples which are forbidden to average Mormons and partake in the secret ceremonies of the elites, (such as converting Catholic Popes). “”


167 posted on 02/15/2014 9:22:04 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: restornu
Every temple I have attended over 30 years, unless I was with my ward members I had no clue what were the status of other members.

You knew that they weren't attendees if they didn't have ID proving they were temple Mormons, either their status was being a temple Mormon, or they were not members of the temple, so one of course knows the status, for instance, only a temple Mormon can watch her daughters wedding, while a common Mormon can't.

When one makes covenant to the Lord they are asked if they have been faithful to their vows, and the renewal is every two years,

They are reexamined every two years, they must be interviewed by the Bishop, and the Stake president, and one of the requirements of holiness, is that they give at least 10% of their income to Mormonism, and the average Mormon is forbidden the temple and must worship in plain buildings.

(such as converting Catholic Popes). *** no one can convert another so that was a falsehood Ansell it is a gift offer vicariously just like when you are born Jesus made a vicarious gift to you to receive it or to decline. The conversion come by the power of the Holy Ghost no other way. No one is forcing anyone we all still have our agency beyond the veil to choose.

So you don't deny that your religion tries to baptize the Popes into Mormonism, you merely point out that it is up to them to accept.

Since Pope Pius XII was baptized three times and also "sealed" in eternal marriage to a Mrs Eugenio Pacelli. we can assume that he accepted the Mormon "conversion", can't we?

170 posted on 02/15/2014 10:13:14 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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