[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Excellent posts Bluedragon! I figured with his own talk of development, their claims are essentially undone. The Romanists on one hand want us to think Papism went back to Peter, but then they also want us to think, at the same time, that their own confessed contradictions to this claim aren’t fatal.

[BlueDragon]

Perhaps I should need confess, that despite the kind words of another here --- I am among the polemists. For despite my own desires for unity of all [persons] possibly able to be able to open their own doors, to Christ who stands and knocks, I also can be at times and places, in almost every note, polemical. I certainly was in that recent [larger] one, firing zingers to the end, reaching back to other previous 'arguments', to declare my puny little self winner of those also.

But to what effect? Why? I do not require anyone much to leave the RCC, for Christ can be truly found there (if one searches the proper quarters, not confusing the pathways or methods with the 'inner room' at the end of the best hallways) I do believe, and we do hear testimony for --- which when checking carefully enough, those testimonies can align well enough with many other [testimonies] to be very much shared witness, as to Him, and what He is like...

Yet too, as many of our counterparts are, very much wishing for us to be all united in Christ, for all those outside the bounds of their own fellowship, to know Him as they may do, (*some* anyway? the historical record along with present-day witness does indicate such to be true also) regardless of all the various sins of mankind in evidence wherever one cared to much look.

In this it can be agreed that the church (disagreement in definitions of what composes that notwithstanding) is indeed infallibly led, but with a persistently nagging problem being "it" not infallibly following.

I speak here of the Lord Himself, the One Good Shepherd, not those who may be able to become transparent/invisible enough, that all of that which is more themselves (thus not God) is set enough aside, any remaining clearly enough delineated as to what that is, that purer untainted Word of the Lord can be clearly heard, even as He at times can use persons as his instruments...wherever they may be found among the ekklesia.

Meanwhile, persons like myself, with our own personality flaws, like veins of differing mineral within, can be singularly (that word again, lol) known by their own inherent flaws as it were, but if well polished enough can hold interest and value.

May we all be as lively stones of the sort He Himself gather and collect, for He was the one who breathed life upon and into them all, as from our own genesis as "man".