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To: Cvengr; agere_contra; Salvation; Ann Archy; stonehouse01; tioga
1) Aaron’s Rod that budded.

The rod is a symbol of authority.

Christ, the Good Shepherd.

Christ, the Judge.

2) A Pot of Manna, and

The bread from heaven that kept God's people alive.

John 6:31ff Our fathers did eat manna in the desert, as it is written: He gave them bread from heaven to eat…I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall not hunger: and he that believeth in me shall never thirst.

3) The Broken Tablets from Mt Sinai.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us

Those items in the Ark represent three cases of disobedience to His Plan.

You are critically incorrect here. The items in the ark are prefigurements of Christ.

And God, the Holy Spirit overshadowed the ark and filled it (cf. Exodus 25).

Now we could run through more prefigurement. How the ark traveled on the way to Jerusalem and stopped at a small town in the hill country outside Jerusalem (and then how Mary traveled to Elizabeth...in the hill country outside Jerusalem). How David leaped for joy (how John the Baptist leaped for joy).

But I don't want to bother with it, as it wouldn't change your thinking in the least bit.

After all, Catholicism has nothing to do with the Bible and no amount of quoting the Bible by Catholics will change some folks' minds about it.

42 posted on 02/03/2014 2:16:43 PM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

“no amount of quoting the Bible by Catholics “

Anyone can quote. Quoting to support something not taught is called taking it out of context... Regardless of denomination.


43 posted on 02/03/2014 2:25:51 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: markomalley
After all, Catholicism has nothing to do with the Bible and no amount of quoting the Bible by Catholics will change some folks' minds about it.

Both are false statements, and the issue for me relative to your statement is not simply whether the golden ark prefigured Mary - and i do not disallow you can make a case for that, but i do reject that as helping warrant the demigodess stature ascribed in manifold ways to the Mary of Rome - but the issue now it is that while you appeal to Scripture for your interpretation, you cannot claim full assurance upon that basis, lest you be as an evangelical, and your goal in using Scripture must be to convince us to submit to Rome in order to find real assurance of Truth.

Moreover, as the veracity of RC doctrine is not dependent upon the weight of Scriptural substantiation, nor do they even need any actual evidence thereby, then your interpretation carries no real weight even for Catholics, unless Rome officially teaches it.

Furthermore, as RCs have great liberty to interpret Scripture in order to support Rome, then unless Rome officially teaches it another RC could interpret the Ark differently.

46 posted on 02/03/2014 5:10:50 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: markomalley

The Ark may be a prefigurement of Jesus Christ, with the wood representing His humanity and the gold His Diety. It doesn’t seem consistent to make a blood offering on the Mercy seat which covers the Ark, unless the offering covers all sin, so unless they represent the sin imputed to Christ, I don’t find the contents to represent Christ. I agree He is given all authority, He provides, and He fulfills the Law, but that is consistent with those pieces representing our sin in those areas.


49 posted on 02/03/2014 7:22:27 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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