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To: ScottinVA

I recall, perhaps incorrectly, that R. Warren endorsed Obama — in 2008. This, the trampling of religious freedom and choice by “health care” — was known and foreseeable then. He is late to the table. Welcome, but late.

And for those of us who pay directly, without employer paid benefits, this has been an immediate issue.


5 posted on 01/31/2014 7:43:15 AM PST by bajabaja (Too ugly to be scanned at the airports.)
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To: bajabaja
I don't believe Warren actually endorsed Obama, but he certainly gave that impression by the way he straddled the fence.

It was a major contrast to Rev. Billy Graham who took out full page advertisements in the Sunday before the 2012 election to leave no doubt about where he stood. I respect Rev. Graham for that.

I also welcome Rick Warren to the fight, even as a Johnny-Come-Lately, and whatever his motives are.

6 posted on 01/31/2014 7:50:55 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: bajabaja
5 I recall, perhaps incorrectly, that R. Warren endorsed Obama — in 2008. This, the trampling of religious freedom and choice by “health care” — was known and foreseeable then. He is late to the table. Welcome, but late. ...

Warren hosted the 1st presidential candidates' debate between McCain and Obama on 8/16/2008 at Warren's Saddleback Church. This was where Rick Warren asked the question, “What is marriage?” Senator Obama replied, “I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. [big audience applause] For me as a Christian it’s also a sacred union, you know, God’s in the mix … I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage.”

Rick Warren also directed the question to the 2 candidates, in regards to abortion, “at what point does a baby get human rights?” Sen. Obama replied, "that whether you’re looking at it from a theological perspective or a scientific perspective, answering that question with specificity, you know, is above my pay grade." Sen. McCain replied directly to the question, "At the moment of conception."

Rick Warren was invited and delivered a prayer at BHO's inauguration on 1/20/2009 in Washington, D.C.

I do not recall Warren ever endorsing a candidate in that election. Warren graduated from a Southern Baptist Seminary, but I really don't know if he considers himself a member of the Southern Baptist Convention. I don't believe Billy Graham ever endorsed a presidential candidate, until OCT 2012, when he indirectly supported Romney. After the 2009 inauguration, Warren, the way I remember it, pretty much disappeared from the national scene. The death of his son clearly took a toll on him. But, I agree, he is late to the party, but most welcome.

11 posted on 01/31/2014 8:14:31 AM PST by MacNaughton
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I don't think he endorsed Obama. He was looking to draw him out on subjects like abortion. -- get him to talk about it.

And that in itself is a good thing, since abortion is so repugnant that if you get get the borts to talk about it, normal people are simply disgusted.

25 posted on 01/31/2014 7:30:08 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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