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To: Kansas58
While you deny that there was an “Oral Tradition” in the Early Church, you admit that the early Church Fathers MEMORIZED Scripture as it was, indeed, not practical to carry rare, expensive, heavy scrolls around with them.

That does not mean that they were RARE. That's an assumption.

And *I* memorize Scripture. Do you think Scripture is *rare* these days because of that?

The vast majority of Early Christians learned with their ears not with their eyes, they HEARD the Word, most did NOT read the Word.

Prove it.

Provide the links to the sources that document this. Otherwise it amounts to nothing more than speculation and opinion.

458 posted on 01/31/2014 12:08:33 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

Common sense, please.
The population could not travel long distances, easily.
The printing press had not been invented.
It took thousands of hours and lots of money to hand write an entire Bible in with the methods used at that time.
The entire work of recognized Scripture was very large and very heavy and very fragile and PRICELESS.

There was no Bible at all, recognized as such, until nearly 400 BC.


459 posted on 01/31/2014 5:48:55 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: metmom

The literacy rate in Biblical times was VERY low:

“Nonetheless, this percentage is reflected in one of the rules in Soferim 11:2 (ed. Higger, p. 218):A town in which there is only one who reads; he stands up, reads (the Torah), and sits down, he stands up, reads and sits down, even seven times. In other words, in some towns there was only one person who could read the Torah, which is a highly (Hebrew) religious reading.25 This rule appears also in t. Megila though with a slight difference: instead of ‘town’ it says there: ‘a synagogue of which there is only’, etc.26 However, this minor difference in the text has no significance since in the small towns in the Land of Israel there usually was one synagogue only, such as in Korazim, Beit-Shearim, and so forth. That is to say that the meaning of that rule was the same even though there was a textual difference. Calculating the balance between males and females, taking into consideration that female literacy rate is always lower than the male rate leads to the idea of there being one reader only in various places. If the fact is not overlooked that in all the synagogues that have been unearthed there was place for more than 50 people, the conclusion must be reached that while issuing that rule the Tanna was speaking of a town where the literacy rate was approximately 1 percent (if not lower). It may be argued that the Tanna ruled in a unique case, but it seems that usually the Tannaim did not speak of rare cases. On the contrary, most if not all, of the cases studied show that the rules of the Tannaim played their role in people’s lives.27 Of course, it does not mean that in all rural places there was such literacy, but, on the other hand, if there were towns with 1% literacy, then the literacy of all the towns was not higher than 5% (at most). Therefore, taking into consideration the above rule, together with the fact that there are rules that reflect a zero literacy rate in the rural areas lead to the assumption of a low rate of literacy in the whole population. Even if we assume that in cities (as happens all over the world in urban areas in comparison to rural areas), such as Tiberias, for example, the literacy rate was double and even triple in comparison with the towns, still the figures of literacy are around 2-15%. With the assumption that the rural population was around 70% (with 0% literacy), 20% of urban population (with 1-5% literacy), and 10% of highly urban population (with 2-15% literacy), the total population literacy is still very low. Thus, it is no exaggeration to say that the total literacy rate in the Land of Israel at that time (of Jews only, of course), was probably less than 3%. At first glance this figure looks quite low, and maybe too low. However, in a traditional society, knowing how to read was not a necessity: neither for economic reasons, nor for intellectual ones. On the contrary. Why should a farmer send his son to learn how to read when it entails a waste of working time (=money)? Why should he himself learn how to read if his culture is based on oral tradition (though with a written Torah)? According to the Torah, there is no need to read or write, except for writing the Mezuza, Tefilin, and the Torah itself. However, for these purposes there was always a scribe, so a Jew in antiquity could fulfill the commandments of the Torah while being illiterate. Not only that, but 3% of the total population seems to be high in comparison with other cultures. In ancient Egypt, a land with a lot of scribes, only half a percent were literate.28 Now, even if it is taken into consideration that training in hieroglyphs takes much more time than script with some 22 symbols, still the conclusion of the extent of literacy in a neighboring country some millennia later with literacy rates that are some six times larger than its predecessor, seems quite plausible. According to the growth processes in population and urbanization as mentioned above, it may be surmised that before the beginning of these processes, in the days of the Maccabees and at the end of the ‘biblical’ period, the literacy rate of the Jewish people was 1.5% if not lower. Nevertheless, if the conclusion seems farfetched, it can be rejected only by cogent arguments.29 - See more at: http://www.evidenceforchristianity.org/were-people-literate-in-the-time-of-jesus-r/#sthash.imGBtbQ0.dpuf";

http://www.evidenceforchristianity.org/were-people-literate-in-the-time-of-jesus-r/


461 posted on 01/31/2014 6:05:28 PM PST by Kansas58
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