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To: PhilipFreneau; narses
The Lord hates bloated, top-heavy bureaucracies;

Scripture? I'm not even aware that "bloated bureaucracy" is a term ever used in the bible...or a problem railed about.

We can agree that "bloated bureaucracies" are inefficient and generally negative, but I'm just not aware that the bible addresses is...and that the Lord specifically addresses it.

836 posted on 01/27/2014 3:43:36 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
>>>We can agree that "bloated bureaucracies" are inefficient and generally negative, but I'm just not aware that the bible addresses is...and that the Lord specifically addresses it.<<<

I realize I may be spinning my wheels due to the fact that, to a Catholic, it doesn't appear to matter what Christ says: only what the Catholic bureaucracy says.

For example, even though Christ used the plain words, "call no many father on the earth," the Catholic bureaucracy completely ignored him--even mocked him--by declaring that all priests and above in the bureaucracy will be called "father."

Therefore, even if he used the exact word, "bureaucracy," he would probably be ignored. This passage shows his contempt for bureaucracies in general (which would include the entire hierarchy of the Catholic bureaucracy: )

"Ye know that they which are accounted to rule over the Gentiles exercise lordship over them; and their great ones exercise authority upon them. But so shall it not be among you: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister: And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all. For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many." (Mark 10:42-45)

Anyone in the Catholic bureaucracy that says they follow Christ is not a straight-shooter. Those working outside the bureaucracy, like Mother Theresa, and many in the congregations would qualify because they follow the Good Samaritan rule. As Luther implied, there are some Christians in the Catholic "Church."

And then there is this. Saint Paul said:

"And having food and raiment let us be therewith content." (1 Tim 6:8)

Therefore, it is safe to conclude, from the plain words of our beloved Saint Paul, that those who wear wildly extravagant clothing and adornments and live and work in luxurious surroundings, all by the donations of the membership, would be instantly disqualified as one of "those following Christ." The same rule would apply to the leaders of Christian mega-churches who draw million-dollar salaries from the church members, and live and work in luxury. They have their reward.

Philip

873 posted on 01/27/2014 9:36:11 AM PST by PhilipFreneau
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