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To: DManA

No - I am sure the goal isn’t to divide Christians. The goal is to increase the probability of salvation for non-Catholics by having them come into the Catholic Church.


5 posted on 01/23/2014 9:47:00 PM PST by impimp
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To: impimp
Non-Catholics?
8 posted on 01/23/2014 9:51:29 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: impimp

It is well with my soul. Thank you very much.


12 posted on 01/23/2014 9:54:54 PM PST by DManA
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To: impimp

“No - I am sure the goal isn’t to divide Christians. The goal is to increase the probability of salvation for non-Catholics by having them come into the Catholic Church.”

And what a bang up job some are doing here with that, huh?

FRiendly advice...take the example of the apostles and preach the Gospel (see 1 Corinthians 15). When one does this they are evangelizing not preaching catechism. The former always comes before the latter in the NT.

1 Corinthians 15:1-11 KJV

Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:

After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time. For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.


38 posted on 01/23/2014 10:38:04 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: impimp; DManA
No - I am sure the goal isn’t to divide Christians. The goal is to increase the probability of salvation for non-Catholics by having them come into the Catholic Church.

Didn't you read the OP? Mr. Armstrong said, "All Catholics must regard baptized, Nicene, Chalcedonian Protestants as Christians." Do you disagree with him and your own Catechism which says people can be genuine, saved Christians outside of the Catholic Church? The goal is the same as it usually is - to assert the Roman Catholic Church is the superior Christian faith tradition and EVERYONE must become one if they want salvation (in the "fullest" sense). Plenty of us here came OUT of the Roman Catholic Church and have found THE genuine faith taught by Christ and His Apostles. We have no desire to go back.

56 posted on 01/23/2014 11:10:26 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: impimp
No - I am sure the goal isn’t to divide Christians. The goal is to increase the probability of salvation for non-Catholics by having them come into the Catholic Church.

The church didn't die for me and it can't save me.

Jesus is the only One through whom salvation is possible. Jesus saves, not a denomination.

70 posted on 01/24/2014 1:00:26 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: impimp; All
The goal is to increase the probability of salvation for non-Catholics by having them come into the Catholic Church.

Probability of salvation is an interesting choice of words here.

In the Catholic church, you only go to heaven if the church says you do, otherwise you remain in "Purgatory". There is no assurance of Salvation and are dependent upon man to get into heaven.

Whereas, the Lord Jesus Christ, says He looses "none of them". He looses none of them who are "Born of God" and Believe upon Him (His works) for Salvation alone. He told the Pharisees "Unless you believe that I AM HE, you will DIE IN YOUR SINS".

Resting on your good works and your denomination WILL NOT GET YOU INTO HEAVEN. You must believe upon the Savior, Jesus Christ, and no other - otherwise it is NOT SALVATION.

Any dependency including any other person - Joseph Smith, Sun Yen Moon, Jim Jones, and even Mary (The Lord Jesus's mother) will not get you into Heaven.

Only Believing upon Christ Alone.

80 posted on 01/24/2014 3:18:33 AM PST by sr4402
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