“Catholics are majority pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, democrat voters”
You sound like a broke record. Obama 50% Romney 48%.
If you consider that a hell of a spread for Obama you can’t count. Take away some of the illegal Mexicans that voted for him, who couldn’t tell you the first thing about what the Catholic Church teaches and Romney would have carried the vote.
WHITE CATHOLICS (Mass attending) 59% for ROMNEY
40% for OBAMA.
Do you have any idea how bad Romney would have lost if not for 59% of WHITE Catholics voting for him. It’s scary.
I don’t know how many millions 59% represents, but it’s millions and millions.
Protestant Bush won the Catholic vote as recent as 2004. And Morman Mitt Romney basically tied for it in 2012.
But in your mind the democrats have a lock on the “Catholic” vote for the rest of the ages.
And you can bet your bottom dollar that all those hispanics that voted for Obama are not pro-abortion, and are not pro-homo “marriage”. Most hispanics are family-oriented and socially conservative. But they didn’t give social issues a thought when they voted for Obama. They voted for the person who promised them more and who was going to let the rest of their family come into the states and start getting handouts from the government.
The broken record would be the guy who gets on a conservative, pro-life political forum to constantly conceal reality and the truth, and try to hide the Catholic vote in elections and politics.
The Catholic racism here is awesome to behold, it must be brutal in the Catholic denomination.
If you despise non-white Catholics so much, perhaps you will not support more immigration.
“”Protestant Bush won the Catholic vote as recent as 2004.”” Whoopee, in his reelection bid he won the Catholic vote as an incumbent, he won 56% of the Hispanic Protestant vote, that year, so even Hispanics Protestants were to the right of the Catholic vote.
The Catholic vote has gone for the republican about 5 times in history.
As a denomination, it’s members are clearly one of the more pro-abortion, liberal ones.
Once again you are adding to your record and being an argument against being a Catholic, like Rome, making assertions as truth because she said so.
Did you ever engage in research before making such statements? Granted you are not supposed to objectively seek to ascertain the veracity of RC teaching by such, but this is not RC doctrine.
But then again, anything that contradicts the cherished fantasy RCs hold of their idol is impugned as biased and unreliable.
In any case, rather than the reality being that "all those hispanics that voted for Obama are not pro-abortion," what 2013 polling showa is that only 51% of adult Hispanics say abortion should be illegal in most or all cases" even while being family oriented (i am sure there are differences btwn nat.origins though). Other survey have prochoice hispanics even higher, and none were lower.
In addition, only a slight majority of 53% of Hispanic Catholics say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, similar to white Catholics at 54%, which only matches the general public.
Moreover, Latino/Hispanics make up an 32% of Catholics, and 47% of Catholics btwn 18-29, thus foretelling its future voting
In contrast, Latinos make up 15% of evangelicals, and 70% of Latino evangelicals say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases
And as shown before,
Among all Catholics and evangelicals (racial stats not given) who attend services weekly or more, 58% of Catholics and 73% of evangelicals say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases.
Overall , white Evangelicals (23% of the electorate) voted 79%/20% Romney/Obama; Protestants overall (53% of the electorate) voted 57%/42%; black Protestants (9% of the electorate) and other Christian voted 5%/95%; Catholics overall (25% of the electorate) voted 48%/50%; white Catholics (18% of the electorate) voted 59%/40%; and Hispanic Catholics (5% of the electorate) voted 21%/75% Romney/Obama.
Furthermore ,
Among registered voters in 2007, 50% of white Evangelicals and 36% of Latino Evangelicals were Republican, 25% of the former and 36% of the latter were Democrats. 23% white Evangelical and 19% of Latino Evangelicals were Independents http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedfiles/Topics/Demographics/hispanics-religion-07-final-mar08.pdf
70% of Latino registered voters in 2012 identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party, while 22% identify with or lean toward the Republican Party. 81 percent of Latinos with no religious affiliation were Democrats or Democratic leaning. http://www.pewforum.org/Race/Latinos-Religion-and-Campaign-2012.aspx#president
73% of Latino Catholics surveyed said they favored Obama, versus 19% for Romney, while 50% of Latino evangelical Protestants (who accounted for 16% of all Latino registered voters) favored Obama, and 39% were for Romney. http://www.pewforum.org/Race/Latinos-Religion-and-Campaign-2012.aspx
Latino Catholics made up 57% of the Latino electorate in 2012, and 71% are Democrats or lean toward the Democratic Party, while 21% identify with or lean toward the Republican Party. Among Latino evangelical voters, about half are Democrats or lean Democratic, while about a third are Republicans or lean toward the Republican Party. http://www.pewforum.org/Race/Latinos-Religion-and-Campaign-2012.aspx
Also, just 19% of White Catholics, 30% of Latino Catholics, 58% of White evangelicals, 52% of Black Protestants and 29% of White Mainline Protestants oppose any legal recognition of homosexual marriage
Catholics testify [2010] to showing more support (in numbers) for legal recognitions of same-sex relationships than members of any other Christian tradition, and Americans overall. Almost three-quarters of Catholics favor either allowing gay and lesbian people to marry or allowing them to form civil unions (43% and 31% respectively). Only 22% of Catholics said there should be no legal recognition of a gay couples relationship. (PRRI, Pre--election American Values Survey, 9/2010; http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Catholics-and-LGBT-Issues-Survey-Report.pdf.)
This 2010 survey of more than 3,000 adults found that 41% of White American Catholics, 45% of Latino Catholics (versus 16 percent of White evangelical Christians, and 23% of Black Protestants) supported the rights of same-sex couples to marry, and 36% (22% of Latino Catholics) supported civil unions (versus 24% of White evangelicals, and 25% of Black Protestants). Among the general public the rates were 37 and 27 percent.
69% of Catholics disagree that homosexual orientation can be changed, versus 23% who believe that they can change. ^
19% of White Catholics, 30% of Latino Catholics, 58% of White evangelicals, 52% of Black Protestants and 29% of White Mainline Protestants oppose any legal recognition of homosexual marriage. ^
60% of Catholics overall, and 53% of the general public favor allowing homosexual couples to adopt children. ^
73% of Catholics favor laws that would protect gay and lesbian people against discrimination in the workplace, and 63% favor allowing homosexuals to serve openly in the military. For the general public the figures are 68% and 58% respectively. ^
49% of Catholics and 45% of the general public agree that homosexuals should be eligible for ordination with no special requirements. ^
Among Catholics who attend services regularly (weekly or more), 31% say there should be no legal recognition for homosexual relationships (marriage or civil unions), with 26% favoring allowing gay and lesbian people to marry, versus 43% of Catholics who attend once or twice a month, and 59% of Catholics who attend a few times a year or less favoring allowance of homosexual marriage. ^
27% of Catholics who attend church services regularly say their clergy speak about the issue of homosexuality, with 63% of this group saying the messages they hear are negative. ^
48% of white evangelical Protestants oppose letting homosexuals serve openly in the military, with 34% supporting this proposal, versus 63% of Catholics (66% of white) supporting and 23% opposing. Pew forum, November 29, 2010, http://pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Issues/Gay_Marriage_and_Homosexuality/gays%20in%20military%20full%20report.pdf
Thus Catholics overall voted liberal as a majority, and can be expected to do so.
Note that i am not disputing that every single of those hispanics that voted for Obama were pro-abortion, or pro-homo marriage, which is a desperate irrelevant argument, but that the reality is that the Latinos vote liberal, and only a slight majority are prolife, and only 30% oppose legal recognition of homosexual "marriage." Sorry for not making that clear.