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To: narses; CynicalBear
But aren't you on record as equating all organized religions as false? And do not all of them have similar track records with this societal evil that you appear to want to make unique to the Holy Catholic Church?

School teachers abuse children at a 5X greater rate. But you rarely hear that mentioned.

108 posted on 01/18/2014 4:06:00 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

No doubt then CynicalBear has stopped paying taxes to the schools. Right?


109 posted on 01/18/2014 4:06:45 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
School teachers abuse children at a 5X greater rate. But you rarely hear that mentioned.

My mother's grammar school art teacher told her that her drawings looked like she drew them with her feet.

At 55 years old my widowed mother did two things;

1. She went to art school and became VERY proficient in water color and etching. The entire family and all her friends have her art work as a memento of her talent. She passed away last year at 94 years old.

2. She decided to be a lawyer. She went to law school four nights a week and finished the course. She took the California Bar exam and passed it the first time. It took Richard Nixon THREE times to pass the bar.
My mother practiced family law from age 60-80 years of age.

Sad that teachers take out their own personal problems with vengeance on the children, even if said children are the BIGGEST pain in the neck. Not their call to do that.

114 posted on 01/18/2014 4:36:36 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
>>School teachers abuse children at a 5X greater rate. But you rarely hear that mentioned.<<

Now why would we need to comment about the worldly organizations that one would expect that type of behavior to be fostered in? Are you saying the School teachers are on the same level spiritually as the RCC? Do school teacher claim to be the “one true church”? Do school teachers claim to be the “body of Christ”?

115 posted on 01/18/2014 4:41:23 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
School teachers abuse children at a 5X greater rate. But you rarely hear that mentioned.

Well, there you go. We're not as bad as other people. What's the big deal?

Do I see teachers purporting to be Christ's representatives here on earth?

Do I see teachers claiming to be able to retain or remit sins, thus holding the victims eternal destiny over their heads in blackmail?

121 posted on 01/18/2014 5:40:37 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

You might be right about secular schools but 5X more begs a reference to back the assertion. I am sure you have one. We will wait. Thanks.

The irony here on the RF is however evident. We are told almost daily by your caucus that mother church is “it.” What she says will be obeyed or else. You would expect such an organization with so much history to do the right thing. Not shuffle the deck when confronted with pedophiles and pederasts. In America, the decks were shuffled just to have the offenders find new prey. Why defend the offenders? Defend the victims should be the focus of the church.


152 posted on 01/18/2014 8:27:37 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; UnRuley1; mlizzy; Arthur McGowan; mc5cents; RichInOC; Prince of Space; ...

FACT: Catholic priests abuse at a rate far lower than that of other males in the general population.

Notwithstanding the media hysteria over sex abuse in the Catholic Church, priests abuse at a rate far lower than that of other males. While even one case of abuse is too many, approximately only 4% of all active priests between 1950 and 2002 were even accused of abuse – a rate far lower than that of other males in the general population.

Newsweek magazine, April 7, 2010:

“[B]ased on the surveys and studies conducted by different denominations over the past 30 years, experts who study child abuse say they see little reason to conclude that sexual abuse is mostly a Catholic issue. ‘We don’t see the Catholic Church as a hotbed of this or a place that has a bigger problem than anyone else,’ said Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children …

“Experts disagree on the rate of sexual abuse among the general American male population, but Allen says a conservative estimate is one in 10. Margaret Leland Smith, a researcher at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, says her review of the numbers indicates it’s closer to one in 5 …
“Since the mid-1980s, insurance companies have offered sexual misconduct coverage as a rider on liability insurance, and their own studies indicate that Catholic churches are not higher risk than other congregations … It’s been that way for decades.”

USA Today, June 6, 2010:

“If anyone believes that priests offend at a higher rate than teachers or non-celibate clergy, then they should produce the evidence on which they are basing that conclusion. I know of none. Saying ‘everybody knows’ does not constitute scientific methodology.”
– Dr. Philip Jenkins, Pennsylvania State University.


156 posted on 01/18/2014 9:02:01 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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