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To: FatherofFive
If this is true, they were created that way. Only an evil god would do this.

Take it up with Paul:

Romans 9:14-24

What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”[f] 16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.”[g] 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden. 19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’”[h] 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use? 22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles?


let him be anathema...

I'll proudly be anathemetized along with Paul
34 posted on 01/17/2014 11:45:02 AM PST by armydoc
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To: armydoc

Key to the anathema is “that God produces the evil as well as the good works.”

Whether you hold that doctrine, I’m sure St. Paul does not. If God produced evil, he would be unjust, since evil is unjust.


39 posted on 01/17/2014 11:56:39 AM PST by dangus
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To: armydoc
and he hardens whom he wants to harden

I don't disagree with Paul.

They may be hardened, but that is not a permanent situation. The Prodigal son, as an example. But where does Paul says God creates beings to be dammed to hell with no chance of softening their hardened hearts, and no ability to accept the Grace of God freely given? A hardened heart can change.

So a simple yes/no question - Does God create people who are predestined to hell?

46 posted on 01/17/2014 12:28:44 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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