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To: P-Marlowe; FatherofFive; Gamecock
I know all the proof texts for the Anti-Calvinist position because for 30 years that was my position.

I understand your position completely because it was my position as well. But the scriptures are clear and once a person's eyes are opened to them, there is no going back.

We are depraved people, and that is the simple truth.

We cannot know or see the level of our depravity so steeped as we are in it. God sends His prophets and we kill them. The light comes into the world and we kill Him. This is our nature. Our hearts are hardened by God (and by ourselves) with just a loving word from Him. "Don't take the fruit because you'll die." "Sin is crouching at your door, but you must overcome it." "Let my people go so that they might worship me." He is so good and kind. But the truth is, as unbelievers we want to sin and we steel ourselves against Him. And God hardens our hearts with just a simple loving command that is to our benefit, so corrupt are we.

People know God exist. It isn't that He is hidden away. We just don't want to worship Him. This is the love of God and mankind's depravity. And the kicker to all this is that unless God opens their eyes, man cannot understand the level of their depravity because they are depraved. This is what we want and this is what God has given us.

It is God that must take us by the hand and yank us out of Sodom.

God so loves us that there is a remnant that He saves with His grace and mercy. The real mystery for the believer is why did He grant us His grace and mercy.

113 posted on 01/22/2014 3:52:24 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: HarleyD
"The real mystery for the believer is why did He grant us His grace and mercy."

Some days it makes your head explode and some days your heart.

114 posted on 01/22/2014 4:52:29 AM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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