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In Vitro Children and the Risks They Face
Zenit.org ^ | JUNE 6, 2004 | Interview With Neonatologist Carlo Bellieni

Posted on 01/12/2014 6:16:42 PM PST by Salvation

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To: Olog-hai

Abortion vs. Adoption.

Abortion numbers are higher.


21 posted on 01/12/2014 6:40:52 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Desire overrides ethics if you’re Ted Bundy.

I must say, the world seemed to work a lot better when we didn’t have the technology to do this kind of stuff. People who could not have kids adopted and usually did a fine job raising kids who had lost their parents.

I mean, if we’re running the risk of defects to a human being because we’re starting the reproduction process in a wacky way, what are the ethical implications? Is that so different to someone doing something else that ups the chances of problems for the baby during their pregnancy?


22 posted on 01/12/2014 6:43:31 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Salvation

To adopt is also a blessing. It shouldn’t be denigrated and I ask nobody to take that message away. Circumstances are so individual and to force an ipse dixit upon all marriages is not realistic. Otherwise why aren’t we guilt-tripping every possible couple to adopt and not to do the other thing? If it can be honestly said after honest consideration that it’s for the sake of God that a couple wants to pursue medical help to conceive, they should follow through — and that is not total lack of faith, it is quite the opposite.


23 posted on 01/12/2014 6:43:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That’s not what Matthew 7:1 means.

And faith in man’s science can be equated with faith in God how?


24 posted on 01/12/2014 6:44:31 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Adoption Choice
25 posted on 01/12/2014 6:45:30 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Yeah, that’s a good point. This opens the door to all sorts of nutjobs bringing children into the world to then damage them.


26 posted on 01/12/2014 6:47:14 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

**People who could not have kids adopted and usually did a fine job raising kids who had lost their parents.**

BTTT! May it happen again.


27 posted on 01/12/2014 6:47:29 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes, its not something I’m totally against. I think with the right restrictions and limitations in place, along with better understanding of genetics and how to avoid putting any potential child at risk of defects, this could be a wonderful technology. I would hope however, that adoption would remain preferable for most people in that situation. There are a lot of kids out there who need homes.


28 posted on 01/12/2014 6:49:21 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Olog-hai; HiTech RedNeck

PS. I think that the story in Genesis of Abraham and Sarah’s quest to have a son is one that ought to be meditated on, especially in regards to the matters raised in this thread. The whole story. Including Ishmael.


29 posted on 01/12/2014 6:57:18 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Who, precisely, was Frankenstein?


30 posted on 01/12/2014 7:15:09 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Salvation

I am opposed to the process, but my niece was conceived via IVF and both her parents are her real parents- no donors used. Sometimes donors are needed but not always.


31 posted on 01/12/2014 7:15:33 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: Louis Foxwell

Victor or Frederick?


32 posted on 01/12/2014 7:20:02 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Salvation
Actress Brooke Shields kills 140 of her very own Children by undergoing 7 IVF Treatments
33 posted on 01/12/2014 7:25:33 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Salvation

Yes, most donors are anonymous, but when a relative of ours, between marriages, decided she wanted another baby...she went to OHSU, they gave her a big book, and she CHOSE the father like shopping....eye color, hair color, etc. The poor child she birthed now has no father and is likely a lost soul...I think OHSU has since quit doing this for SINGLE females. I was enraged when I heard about it. And, since she still lives in the area, she could run into a half sibling easily. At the time, I believe students donated sperm...and they could do it as often as they wanted.


34 posted on 01/12/2014 7:27:11 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Olog-hai

Really good point.


35 posted on 01/12/2014 7:34:07 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Salvation

The answer is adoption imo. If a couple does not want to adopt a child (when they can’t have their own in usual fashion), they probably would not make a very good parent to begin with.


36 posted on 01/12/2014 7:37:59 PM PST by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: Salvation

I have a son who was IVF. He was ten pounds at birth (41 weeks) and is a healthy, strong and bright child. Perfectly normal in every way.

On the on the hand, I have a dear friend who had twins conceived IVF. One has medium Asperger’s Syndrome and the other was born with extreme mental retardation and is wheelchair bound with cerebral palsy. They were born prematurely at 26 weeks.


37 posted on 01/12/2014 7:43:22 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: Olog-hai

Freddie, of course. The story is predicated on the notion of creating a person in a laboratory. The attendant tragedy is the child’s pain knowing instinctively he is not fully human.


38 posted on 01/12/2014 7:44:09 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Salvation

What is “cerebral paralysis?”


39 posted on 01/12/2014 7:56:32 PM PST by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: Salvation

“Do the risks outweigh the advantages? Or does the (selfish)desire for a child override ethics?”

my emphasis with the parentheses...

A rhetorical question, I’m sure.


40 posted on 01/12/2014 8:55:27 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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