Posted on 01/05/2014 8:07:24 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
You can send me all the lists in the world, I sit in the pews EVERY day
I listen to their words EVERY day the entire church the POPE included
is ALL for social justice! It is what it is! I was raised Catholic will always be
Catholic however I WILL NEVER BELIEVE IN SOCIAL JUSTICE! NEVER!
Shhh, if you don't move they can't see you:)
No wonder I hear all the young men talking how they can't find dates. The Girl Scouts are taking them out of the system.
FWIW, I think recruiting your clergy from young celebate men has some consequences. Paul told Timothy to consider men who were married and mature in the faith. Not throwing stones here, but perhaps if it was allowed to have both demographics in your church may solve some of these issues. A few bishops who have been married raised a few kids may add a perspective the Roman Catholic church is in need of.
Food for thought.
If your list includes public statements prior to the passage of the bill , then that would be good info to post so the Catholic church faithful can know who they are dealing with. I gather more bishops came on line once the "surprise" was over.
Thanks quite a list. As I posted a bit after this post, most of the articles of outrage are post passage of obamacare. Either the bishops were like most of Congress and passed the bill before reading it, most of these articles are “right of the boom.”
Time to let the BSA and GS just wither on the vine and go away
” A few bishops who have been married raised a few kids may add a perspective the Roman Catholic church is in need of.”
In the context here, about what?
Using artificial contraception is a sin. Always has been. How will a married priesthood change that? (Note that up until the Lambeth Convention of —IIRC— 1935, all Christian denominations taught that, whether they allowed married clergy or not)
Abortion is sinful, whether the clergy is married or not.
And so on.
(And, FYI, a large portion of clergy are married. Permanent Deacons are generally either married or widowers, Anglican Use priests may be married prior to ordination, Eastern Rite priests, also. Priests who were clergy as Protestants are often granted dispensations to be ordained while married, and so on. One of the priest-bloggers who is posted here fairly often, Dwight Longenecker, is married. While not the norm, it’s hardly that rare)
So, seriously, perhaps you can share how generally allowing married men to be ordained as priests would change anything in the context of this thread...
The Catholic Church’s teaching on contraception and abortion has nothing whatsoever to do with the opinions of bishops. Even if bishops’ opinions were to change as a result of being married, this could have no effect on the teaching of the Catholic Church regarding sodomy (contraception) or the killing of babies (abortion).
“Organized religion is corrupt. They fear the government more than they fear the ONE they claim to worship.”
And the worshippers follow along.
Within the discussion of the thread we have comments alluding to an institutionalized mindset of favoring social justice over moral issues. This type of mindset begins with a young man going through seminary and is reinforced as he progresses through the ranks. I was offering that Paul discussed with Timothy that overseers or elders should be selected who are mature in the faith. Part of being mature in the faith is facing the same challenges and experiences of life as the flock.
But, I agree perhaps I am a bit off topic and clearly the subject is abortion and recognizing those who are opposed to our Christian view of life.
This is old news Father. I’m just wondering what made you post this now?
I just ran across it.
http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/is-the-girl-scouts-safe-for-catholic-girls
A year and a half later and we’re still waiting for the results of the USCCB’s so-called “inquiry”. I tend to think there is no such inquiry happening.
Oh ok. Just wondering.
Please remember the Commandment about bearing false witness. Asking a question doesn't absolve you because doing so only leads other to join in that false witness.
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