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To: Partisan Gunslinger
Sounds like when the antiChrist reigns some of us will be put into prison and then taken to the antiChrist's courts and there the Holy Spirit will speak through the righteous prisoners and convert many. It will be a big event.

I don't disagree with that at all...in fact I'm quite convinced of it.

But I don't see how you get that from John 16:13.

There is no rapture by the way.

I hope that I never implied that there was such a thing (a doctrine that, IIRC, was invented somewhere in the 19th Century by Darby...but I'm no expert on Protestantism, so I could well be mistaken)

62 posted on 01/03/2014 6:24:02 PM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley
I don't disagree with that at all...in fact I'm quite convinced of it. But I don't see how you get that from John 16:13.

When we are delivered up into the courts is one example of when the Holy Spirit will be with us. But reading the whole 16th chapter in context Jesus was saying (paraphrasing) "I'm leaving but the Holy Spirit will take my place for you and guide you as you go". He also said (paraphrasing) "You can't bear all the truth at once". So just as the disciples couldn't conceptualize all the truth even though they walked with Jesus, neither does the Holy Spirit slam all truth at once to anyone. The Holy Spirit guides a believer to truth, just as Jesus did his disciples.

I hope that I never implied that there was such a thing (a doctrine that, IIRC, was invented somewhere in the 19th Century by Darby...but I'm no expert on Protestantism, so I could well be mistaken)

No, I didn't think you implied anything about any rapture. I just wanted you to know I don't believe in it. Everyone assumes most Protestants believe in the rapture theory. I, for one, don't.

Just curious...Since you believe as I do that the true believers will be put into prison then hauled before the antiChrist's courts, what do you think the Catholic Church will be doing at this time?

125 posted on 01/04/2014 5:30:51 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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