[Claud]

A wise man once said to me "the Calvinists are a bit too confident and the Arminians are worry warts...we do well to listen to them both.":) That about sums it up.

LOL! That's actually pretty close to the Catholic position. :)

Ok if it's the case that we should listen to Calvinists and Arminians on the Gospel of Grace, why not also listen to the Catholics, the Orthodox, and the various Churches of the East?

Normally the folks I argue with on here are good about citing Augustine on Grace for instance. But that's about it...they don't temper Augustinian doctrines with, say, the Greek Fathers who had a rather different emphasis.

[redleghunter]

I believe the divide is based on the difference of infused and reckoned righteousness.