Posted on 12/29/2013 5:22:47 PM PST by Star Traveler
Acts 2:20 (KJV): The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come.
Pastor Mark Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries in Puyallup, Washington click here has been sharing with us some remarkable discoveries on the blood-red moon and Jewish feast connections in the past three months. He now has some new discoveries.
I have known Mark for four years and have spoken at his church twice in the Tacoma, Washington, area. He has been an avid student and teacher of the Jewish Feasts and their awe-inspiring connections to the Lord's earthly events.
Mark said he had found my blood-red moon work interesting and began looking into possible connection to past and future Jewish Feasts at which time he found very significant connections.
I have provided blood-red moon information, and information on the coming total solar eclipses of 2008, 2009 and 2010which all fall on the 1st of Av.
Seven back-to-back, blood-red moons have fallen on the first day of Passover and Sukkot, with the eighth time coming in 2014 and 2015
Mark found that we have had blood-red moons on the first day of Passover and the first day of Sukkot on back-to-back years seven times since 1 A.D. Three of these occurrences were connected to 1492 (the final year of the Spanish Inquisition), 1948 (statehood for Israel and the War of Independence), and 1967 (the Six-Day War) some of the most significant days in Jewish history.
So what does the period of time from 2013 to 2015 portend for Israel and the world?
(Excerpt) Read more at watch.org ...
Still waiting for the events/dates of those seals be opened as you have asserted.
Dates for things that run for centuries?
Completely facetious.
You’re the one who has asserted Christ Jesus has opened the seals. When they are opened, they are opened at an explicit time and date. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be ‘sealed’.
>> “When they are opened, they are opened at an explicit time and date.” <<
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Your private theory, that is nowhere to be found in scripture.
Nowhere in Matthew 24, Nowhere in Revelation.
Nowhere!
Go study the law and Leviticus.
Answer the question why contracts are sealed?
It isn’t a private interpretation.
You’re punching the air on this.
Matthew 24 is one of the most revealing chapters in the Bible, and you dismiss it in favor of Hagee-ism.
I guess I take a more simplistic approach to the possible events regarding the blood moons. Could it be that during the blood moons for some reason unknown to me that Israel just might kick the muslims out of Jerusalem and begin the task of rebuilding the temple?
White horse - Everyone assumes these are all evil... Step away and look:
The white horseman is given a crown. And he has a bow. Who has a bow in the Tanakh? Ephraim. This is Ephraim going forth to become a 'great nation in the midst of the earth'. Everyone understands the 'death of the testator' from a Christian point of view, but who looks back at the promises to Israel? They too require the death of the testator - The blessings are inherited down the line, but who is the testator? Abraham? No...
I think:
The white horse culminates in Britain and the US... the western Republic form... those who fled from before the dragon into the wilderness.
The red horse culminates in communism.
The black horse culminates in Mohammedanism.
And the green horse presumably is the 'new world order'.
These are the end-time alignments/philosophies. And they rose to world power according to their progression.
Israel has over ONE MILLION Muslims, who have FULL RIGHTS as citizens of Israel. And Israel has already proven that they are NOT AN APARTHEID STATE!
Keep in mind that many of Israel’s detractors make the (false) accusation that Israel IS AN APARTHEID STATE. And Israel GOES OUT OF ITS WAY to prove, by the FACTS, that it is not. The PROOF is that there are over ONE MILLION MUSLIMS in Israel who have full citizenship rights, just like any other Jewish citizen. They are exactly EQUAL UNDER THE LAW!
IN ADDITION ... Israel has agreed for over a couple of decades, that outside of Israel proper, the Palestinians will have their own Palestinian State. Those are long-standing agreements, signed by all the Prime Ministers of Israel for the last couple of decades. The government of Israel - including the present government and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is FULLY COMMITTED to forming a Palestinian State (and Netanyahu has said so, very explicitly, many times).
ANOTHER THING is that Israel DOES NOT COMMIT WAR CRIMES, in spite of that accusation from many detractors that Israel does. They don’t! SO ... NO ... Israel won’t be listening to you and committing a war crime of forcibly removing civilians from their homes to drive them into other countries.
Israel works very hard to PROVE they are not an Apartheid State, that they protect ALL CITIZENS’ rights, including Muslims, that they protect all the religious areas (including Muslims and Christians) and that they DO NOT COMMIT WAR CRIMES,
I don’t think Israel is going to be listening to you ... :-) ...
There are only two white horsemen in Revelation, the one going forth to battle at Armageddon, Rev. 19, is the true Christ; the one going forth to battle in seal one is the false Christ, or antichrist. He goes forth on a white horse as Christ will, but he is an impostor. A counterfeit.
In ancient times, great conquerors rode white horses. A white horse was quite symbolic.
In the prophetic passages of the Bible that deal with the tribulation, the antichrist is the most conspicuous event, the central figure of the end time, this is why he, in the first seal, kicks everything off. He begins the series of events that culminate with his destruction by the TRUE Christ, also on a white horse, in Rev. 19.
Yes, I am well aware of the traditional view. I don't agree with it. Both Paul and John declared they were in the end days, so the 'end days' have been ongoing for 2000 years. I cannot adhere to the idea that prophecy stood still for all that time. I am absolutley not going to buy the idea that it is all on hold for the 'age of grace'.
And there is *nothing* that says the rider of the white horse is the antichrist, other than tradition.
In ancient times, great conquerors rode white horses. A white horse was quite symbolic.
True. And the crown is symbolic, as is the bow. The bow is probably the most significant, at least by volume of mention.
In the prophetic passages of the Bible that deal with the tribulation, the antichrist is the most conspicuous event, the central figure of the end time, this is why he, in the first seal, kicks everything off. He begins the series of events that culminate with his destruction by the TRUE Christ, also on a white horse, in Rev. 19.
Again, boilerplate tradition. We are too close to the end for EVERYTHING to happen. Some of it has to have gone by unnoticed... Like the OP. very few Christians will even be aware of such an event, and will be blind.
I am well aware of who Ephraim is in history, and in the present, but while he became a great nation, he was stymied in becoming a good nation.
That nation lost its way a century ago.
The Olivet discourse reinforces the future timing of the Great Tribulation.
Again, I see no evidence the Great Tribulation has begun.
Those who claim the seals have been broken attempt to steal a crown from our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus, thinking they can possess that which only He is qualified to unseal. If those seals have been broken prior to His unsealing them, then their promise has been taken by another.
"And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are sealed till the time of the end." (verse 9)
This was said in reference to "times, times, and an half" (verse 7), the 3 1/2 year period of the great tribulation we see so often in Revelation. The time of the end.
The way I see it, the grand concluding events of the end are to remain sealed until the unsealing that we see in Revelation. Which unsealing has to do with Dan. 12; which has to do with the 3 1/2 years specified in Dan. 12...of which the antichrist is the main figure. The first seal in Revelation that is opened allows the antichrist, or the beast, to go forth.
The 3 1/2 years of the great tribulation are the time of the end. We have to have the antichrist on the scene before it can happen. He starts the series of events of the time of the end that will culminate with the second coming.
When God the Lamb says the time has come for the events of the end to begin, the first seal of Revelation will be opened. The Lamb alone, our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus, as you said, and as Revelation says, opens the seals.
>> “Again, I see no evidence the Great Tribulation has begun.” <<
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A rather foolish strawman.
Obviously nobody has even come close to suggesting that the trib has begun. We have to go through 42 months of Daniel’s 70th week before the trib can begin. And we don’t seem to be that close to the beginning of the 70th week.
What are you up to?
>> “And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are sealed till the time of the end.” (verse 9) <<
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Equating this verse with delaying the “seals” in Revelation is just plain juvenile and silly. Everything in the Revelation but the “Thunders” is revealed!
The seals in Revelation are on Satan’s deed to planet Earth. Adam ceded that deed to Satan when he sinned, and therein lies Satan’s power on Earth. Opening those seals reveal the stages of Satan’s plans. Those plans span the time from the end of the apostolic power to the end of Satan’s rein.
The seals are the key to the entire 5th and sixth millennia in prophecy.
I am post-trib, to illustrate how dangerous it is to have a false interpretation of prophecy, I sometimes point this out to pretribs: “You believe that a pretrib rapture has to happen before the man of sin can be revealed (their interpretation of 2 Thess. 2); which means when he is revealed you will say this cannot possibly be the man of sin. The mark of the beast? no problem, I’ll take it, this can’t be the mark of the beast because the pretrib rapture hasn’t happened yet.”
I realize you are not pretrib, but your historicist system of interpretation is going to produce the same sort of consequence as in the illustration above. It’s best to keep an open mind on these things. You could be wrong.
This thread has become tail end Charlie, I think we are beating a dead horse. No more, I’m done.
Your attempt to cram two millennia into 3 years is far more likely to produce the result you fear.
Wake up and see where we are, there is very little produce available in stores, or in seed bags, that is not GMO.
The horse has run you over in your sleep.
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