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To: editor-surveyor; Elsie
The 24 elders identity has never been satisfactorily addressed by anyone so far.

LOL, yes perhaps a stab at it. You should know I don't tred far from what is not clearly certain in scriptures. I do give observations in which we could all comment on, as in iron sharpening iron.

I agree everyone uses the 24 elders to further a specific view. Here are my observations:

The elders appear in the scene in Heaven in Revelation chapter 4 after John is commanded to "come up". The elders are quite different from the souls of the martrys under the altar. It seems the elders are bodily (supposition on my part) and have golden crowns. Whether the 24 elders in chapter 4 have anything to do with a timeline of events is uncertain other than they are present at the breaking of the first seal. So we have 24 (maybe more we don't know) elders who have crowns. I do not know of any scripture where angels have crowns. Past this is no longer observation. It seems to me these are humans with bodies and not souls. When they got there and how they got there and if these are glorified bodies is unknown from this specific text.

583 posted on 01/09/2014 3:54:49 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

I don’t see any temporal relationship between the vision of the elders and any events.

It’s like they’re just a part of the scenery in the throne room. John is just telling us what he sees.


591 posted on 01/09/2014 4:13:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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