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To: jimmyray; editor-surveyor
>>This passage gave me such trouble in my pre-trib days, as I could never reconcile how verse 31 was not the rapture,<<

Those who deny the rapture of the church make either Daniel or Jesus out to be a liar. Daniel gave a specific number of days from when the antichrist sets himself up in the temple to when Christ returns. Even those who deny the rapture of the church can’t deny that. Yet they also will, with great enthusiasm, proclaim we will not know the day or the hour of Christ’s return.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

It doesn’t take a math wiz to understand when Christ will return after “the daily sacrifice shall be taken away”.

So for you who deny the rapture which is it. Was Jesus wrong or Daniel?

291 posted on 12/26/2013 8:49:02 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear; jimmyray

>> “Those who deny the rapture” <<

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Your comment makes no sense whatsoever.

I am unaware of anyone ever denying the First Resurrection. There are conflicting assertions WRT when it occurs, but no denial that I can find.

Your comment is especially vexing to a thinking person since it was in reply to jimmyray’s post specifically on the resurrection as Yeshua called it, at the last trump. (that is also where Paul called it in 1Corinthians 15).

Can you tell us who denied the First Resurrection? And When they did it? Or is this all a smokescreen?

>> “ Yet they also will, with great enthusiasm, proclaim we will not know the day or the hour of Christ’s return.” <<

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No one that has even a modicum of understanding of how Yom Teruah is determined could possibly make such a proclamation. It is the observation of the new moon at the temple mount in Jerusalem that marks the occurrence of Yom Teruah, and since it can be dependent on weather conditions, truly no one can call it out in advance. The moon has to be sighted. That is all that is meant by the declaration that no man knows the day nor hour. If you had any understanding of the traditions that Yeshua was explaning, you would have known that.

I would like also to call your attention to the fact that Daniel didn’t make any reference to a temple in his prophecy regarding the abomination; it could simply be in the open on the mount and still satisfy Daniel’s prophecy. Yeshua, speaking in Matthew, said only that he would stand in the holy place, which by any reasonable understanding would be on the mercy seat of the Ark. (that is the only “holy place” that presently exists)

So Yeshua got it right, and so did Daniel, and it appears to this observer that you have something wrong.


292 posted on 12/26/2013 10:56:03 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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