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To: Colofornian

I’m shocked you missed the “It happened to Jesus and it happens to Joseph Smith” therefore Jesus == JS reference.

And Jesus came to create a new Covenant, not restore the old one. In some respects, the LDS doctrine is a restoration to the Old Law of human works and sacrifice.


93 posted on 12/24/2013 4:44:08 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy; Colofornian; Elsie

“In some respects, the LDS doctrine is a restoration to the Old Law of human works and sacrifice.”


What you said, and I love the way you hijacked the pompous “restoration” term.

The more laws, the more opportunity for man to gain power over his fellow man (not to mention the lower, female, class).

All in the name of God, IMHO the worst part of it. If you disagree with us that man should have control over his fellow man, than you are disobeying God.

But then what can you expect from those who continue to believe even after the Book of Abraham fraud.


95 posted on 12/24/2013 6:21:58 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: AppyPappy; StormPrepper; freedomlover; All
I’m shocked you missed the “It happened to Jesus and it happens to Joseph Smith” therefore Jesus == JS reference. And Jesus came to create a new Covenant, not restore the old one. In some respects, the LDS doctrine is a restoration to the Old Law of human works and sacrifice.

Yeah, you're right. (Wasn't paying attention)

You, see, I think the "Mormon theology" behind Stormprepper's comment can be found in this "official" Lds church magazine article (Ensign June 1994):

1994 (June) Official Lds Church Magazine places Joseph Smith on par with Jesus Christ re: "shed[ding] his blood in order that the final testament, the reestablishment of the new covenant, might be in full effect.": "As suggested earlier, the life of Joseph Smith was in some degree patterned after that of his Master, Jesus Christ. That pattern holds true even when extended to its tragic conclusion. Like his Master, Joseph Smith also shed his blood in order that the final testament, the reestablishment of the new covenant, might be in full effect...Thus, to bear witness of Joseph Smith is to bear witness of Jesus Christ, who sent him, in the same way that a testimony of Christ also implies clearly a testimony of the Eternal Father, who sent Him. On the other hand, to deny Joseph Smith outright—to deny the spiritual impressions which attest to his prophetic assignment—is to deny the Lord, who sent him."   Lds Church Magazine Ensign Hence, in the Mormon Church's eyes, Joseph Smith's the covenant establisher for the ENTIRE Church! (Not Jesus Christ) Therefore, this is one of the reasons why Mormons seek "to bear witness of Joseph Smith"

Merry CHRISTmas to all!

124 posted on 12/24/2013 3:29:13 PM PST by Colofornian (Lds: why does the D&C 88:81-82 warning commission ONLY apply to privileged Mormons?)
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