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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Here's the bottom line GPH: You've borrowed constructed arguments that have been developed over centuries to justify NOT doing what the Lord says to do in scripture.

These arguments BEGIN with the premise that we don't have to obey the Lord and views scripture from this prism.

You accused Paul of things that would surely have been mentioned in scripture if true. For example you accused of him of willfully and purposely disobeying the Lord when it comes to his sabbaths. You accuse him of willfully and purposely going against the Lord and his prohibition of eating certain types of animal flesh. These things are never even brought up as a charge by neither the Jews not the Jewish Christians.

Thank God we have the words of Paul himself preserved that show that the arguments you present are nothing more than revisionist fantasies:

Act 23:29 I found out that he was accused concerning questions of their law, but had nothing charged against him deserving of death or chains.

In response to these charges Paul said:

Act 24:13 Nor can they prove the things of which they now accuse me.
Act 24:14 But this I confess to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect, so I worship the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets.

If this were the only time that Paul said this it would be enough. Yet he also said:

Act 28:17 And it came to pass after three days that Paul called the leaders of the Jews together. So when they had come together, he said to them: "Men and brethren, though I have done nothing against our people or the customs of our fathers, yet I was delivered as a prisoner from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans,

You put forth a ludicrous argument that gentile Christians are "free" to do anything they want as long as they don't do 4 things. They can willfully and purposely commit virtually any sin they want in your view.

On top of that you accuse Paul and the rest of the Jewish Christians of willfully and purposely violating laws of the Lord Jesus.

Mat_7:23 And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'

Mat_13:41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness,

Mat_23:28 Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

Mat_24:12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

Rom_6:19 I speak in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves of uncleanness, and of lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves of righteousness for holiness.

2Co_6:14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?

2Th_2:7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.

Heb_1:9 YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS MORE THAN YOUR COMPANIONS."

1Jn_3:4 Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness.

You need to put some serious study into the law and it's application under the new covenant my friend. Because what you are advocating and teaching puts you on very dangerous ground.

116 posted on 12/29/2013 6:15:11 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

“You’ve borrowed constructed arguments that have been developed over centuries to justify NOT doing what the Lord says to do in scripture.”


Looks like you’re finally tuckering out. Your post is pitiful compared to the usual stuff you put out. Not to say that your other posts aren’t absurd, it’s just this one seems downright lazy.

“You accused Paul of things that would surely have been mentioned in scripture if true.”


It’s mentioned:

1Ti_4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

Rom_6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

In fact, the latter is the primary message of the Gospel. It is, after call, called the “Gospel of grace” for a reason. It’s not the ‘Good News of still being under the law,” as your cult teaches.

“You put forth a ludicrous argument that gentile Christians are “free” to do anything they want as long as they don’t do 4 things.”


Actually, I never made that argument. I pointed out that those 4 things were the answer to the question “Are we required to be circumcized and to follow the law, as the believing Pharisees claimed?” To which the answer is a resounding no, “we gave no command” to be under anything like that. That’s basically the answer to everything you have claimed in this entire thread, really, There is “no command” for any of the things you have claimed. Therefore, I can just dismiss you as just another peddler of Demonic doctrines.

Well, that was obvious with the whole “We’re going to become gods of our own planet” theology of Armstrong. So really, I had dismissed you starting out into this thread, since I already knew you were pimping UCB doctrine.

“You need to put some serious study into the law and it’s application under the new covenant my friend. Because what you are advocating and teaching puts you on very dangerous ground.”


You are so lost in your religious cult that you don’t even understand the Gospel. I wonder, if it is even worth trying to educate you on the matter? It’s a sad thing! But, you can go ranting on about how eating or not eating is “lawlessness”:

1Co_8:8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse.

I’ll live under the Gospel of Grace, and you can go burn.


117 posted on 12/29/2013 1:23:01 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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