[ravenwolf]

I wonder if that MIGHT be symbolic of “gifts under the manger”?)

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Possibly.

I used to listen to Herbert and Ted Armstrong quite a bit, i can,t remember much about it now but at the time i thought they made a little sense .

I can relate to the drawer, My folks used a big box or a trunk full of straw, the older kids made their own mattress,s out of straw.

A manger could have been just a box which they could have moved or it could have been built in, that would kind of depend on what kind and how many animals they were feeding.

At any rate i agree that Joseph would have made arrangements, i doubt if they were living with the cows and sheep.

[DouglasKC]

I used to listen to Herbert and Ted Armstrong quite a bit, i can,t remember much about it now but at the time i thought they made a little sense .

I don't have much use for either. The organizations they headed were very autocratic and fostered authoritarianism. That being said they did a lot to publicize little know biblical doctrine and truth.

[verga]

<>I>At any rate i agree that Joseph would have made arrangements,

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