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1 posted on 12/12/2013 4:07:05 PM PST by matthewrobertolson
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The Episcopal "Church" of the USA (the official American branch of Anglicanism) also now blesses homosexual relationships. (See their liturgy for it here.) The "Church" of England recently announced that it will follow the same route.

Once the Spirit has left the building, there is nothing left to do but call the realtors.

2 posted on 12/12/2013 4:13:48 PM PST by marron
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The Anglican positions on marriage and sexuality are nonsensical. Would not God's true Church be more consistent? If Anglicans really want to "secure a better education for the clergy in moral theology" (Resolution 12 of the 1930 LC), then they should tell them to become Catholic.

I agree. Liberal Anglicans would be better off being Catholic.

4 posted on 12/12/2013 4:26:41 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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The declaration at Lambeth is contentless. They never answered the question: WHAT moral considerations could make continence immoral?

Ultimately, of course, married couples were being told: Do the right thing, unless you find it difficult or unpleasant.


5 posted on 12/12/2013 4:53:10 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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Tolkien best summarized Anglicanism: “a pathetic and shadowy medley of half-remembered traditions and mutilated beliefs.”


6 posted on 12/12/2013 4:58:47 PM PST by irishjuggler
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The Anglican positions on marriage and sexuality are nonsensical. Would not God's true Church be more consistent? If Anglicans really want to "secure a better education for the clergy in moral theology" (Resolution 12 of the 1930 LC), then they should tell them to become Catholic.

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7 posted on 12/12/2013 5:26:15 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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“So, if openness to life is not required in marriage (which the acceptance of contraception would seem to indicate), then why are same-sex couples in the ECUSA mandated to practice sexual abstinence? And if it is required, then why are contraception and homosexual relationships now endorsed?”

Excellent point. But sin is incompatible with true logic and reasoning.


9 posted on 12/12/2013 9:04:54 PM PST by ReformationFan
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The Anglican positions on marriage and sexuality are nonsensical. Would not God's true Church be more consistent? If Anglicans really want to "secure a better education for the clergy in moral theology" (Resolution 12 of the 1930 LC), then they should tell them to become Catholic.

If Roman Catholicism is being presented as "God's true church" and superior to any other denomination of Christianity based on this one area, then shouldn't this church actually demonstrate that moral superiority better? Without even dwelling on the abysmal child sexual abuses of the past BY clergy and the cover-ups, stonewalling and perjury by the hierarchy, explain how the "contraception" rules are intrinsically different when the "rhythm method" and "natural family planning" are recommended for married couples to avoid conception? The result is basically the same whether a couple uses NFP or a condom. All the Catholic Church is doing is piously asserting "their" way is the only way God's church should act in the area of what a husband and wife do in the planning of their families between themselves and God. It sounds more than a little hypocritical to me.

I sincerely HOPE nobody decides to join the Catholic Church solely on the basis of this issue.

10 posted on 12/13/2013 12:12:41 AM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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