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Do Catholics Worship Statues?
Tim Staples' Blog ^ | November 30, 2013 | Tim Staples

Posted on 12/10/2013 8:16:59 AM PST by GonzoII

Do Catholics Worship Statues?


The first commandment says: “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them” (Ex. 20:2–5).

Well-meaning Evangelicals and Fundamentalists, armed with the above text, often try to use it against Catholics: “How can God make it any clearer than this? We are not to have ‘graven images,’ or statues, yet what do you see in almost every Catholic Church around the world? Statues! This is the definition of idolatry. And please, do not give me any of this nonsense about equating the statues in your churches to carrying a photograph of a loved one in your wallet. In Exodus 20, as well as in Deuteronomy 5:7–8, God specifically says we are not to make statues in the shape of anything in the sky above, the earth below or the waters beneath the earth.”

How are we to respond?

Clarifications

The Catholic Church does not believe any statue or image has any power in and of itself. The beauty of statues and icons move us to the contemplation of the Word of God as he is himself or as he works in his saints. And, according to Scripture, as well as the testimony of the centuries, God even uses them at times to impart blessings (e.g., healings) according to his providential plan.

While it can certainly be understood how a superficial reading of the first commandment could lead one to believe we Catholics are in grave error with regard to our use of statues and icons, the key to a proper understanding of the first commandment is found at the very end of that same commandment, in verse 5 of Exodus 20: “You shall not bow down to them or serve [adore] them.”

The Lord did not prohibit statues; he prohibited the adoration of them. If God truly meant that we were not to possess any statues at all, then he would later contradict himself. Just five chapters after this commandment in Exodus 20, God commanded Moses to build the ark of the Covenant, which would contain the presence of God and was to be venerated as the holiest place in all of Israel. Here is what God commanded Moses concerning the statues on it:

And you shall make two cherubim of gold; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat. Make one cherub on the one end, and one cherub on the other end; of one piece with the mercy seat shall you make the cherubim on its two ends (Ex. 25:18–19).

In Numbers 21:8–9, not only did our Lord order Moses to make another statue in the form of a bronze serpent, he commanded the children of Israel to look to it in order to be healed. The context of the passage is one where Israel had rebelled against God, and a plague of deadly snakes was sent as a just punishment. This statue of a snake had no power of itself—we know from John 3:14 it was merely a type of Christ—but God used this image of a snake as an instrument to effect healing in his people.

Further, in 1 Kings 6, Solomon built a temple for the glory of God, described as follows:

In the inner sanctuary he made two cherubim of olivewood, each ten cubits high. . . . He put the cherubim in the innermost part of the house. . . . He carved all the walls of the house round about with carved figures of cherubim and palm trees, and open flowers, in the inner and outer rooms. . . . For the entrance to the inner sanctuary he made doors of olivewood. . . . He covered the two doors of olivewood with carvings of cherubim, palm trees, and open flowers; he overlaid them with gold (1 Kgs. 6:23, 27, 29, 31, 32).

King Solomon ordered the construction of multiple images of things both “in heaven above” (angels) and “in the earth beneath” (palm trees and open flowers). After the completion of the temple, God declared he was pleased with its construction (1 Kgs. 9:3).

It becomes apparent, given the above evidence, that a strictly literal interpretation of Exodus 20:2–5 is erroneous. Otherwise, we would have to conclude that God prohibits something in Exodus 20 that he commands elsewhere.

Guiding Us Home

Why would God use these images of serpents, angels, palm trees, and open flowers? Why didn’t he heal the people directly rather than use a “graven image”? Why didn’t he command Moses and Solomon to build an ark and a temple void of any images at all?

First, God knows what his own commandments mean. He never condemned the use of statues absolutely. Second, God created man as a being who is essentially spiritual and physical. In order to draw us to himself, God uses both spiritual and physical means. He will use statues, the temple, or even creation itself to guide us to our heavenly home.

Psalm 19:1 tells us: “The heavens are telling the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims his handiwork.” Romans 1:20 says: “Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made.” Gazing at a sunset—or a great painting of a sunset—and contemplating the greatness of God through the beauty of his creation is not idolatry. Nor is it idolatrous to look at statues of great saints of old and honor them for the great things God has done through them. It is no more idolatrous for us to desire to imitate their holy lives and honor them than it was for Paul to exhort the Corinthians to imitate his own holy life (1 Cor. 4:16) and to “esteem very highly” those who were “over [the Thessalonians] in the Lord and admonish [them]” (1 Thess. 5:12–13).

Jesus Is the Reason

It is Jesus Christ himself who gives us the ultimate example of the value of statues and icons. Indeed, Christ, in his humanity, has opened up an entirely new economy of iconography and statuary. Christ becomes for us the ultimate reason for all representations of the angels and saints. Why do we say this? Colossians 1:15 tells us Christ is, “The image (Gr.-icon) of the invisible God.” Christ is the ultimate icon! And what does this icon reveal to us? He reveals God the Father. When Jesus said, “He who has seen me has seen the Father,” in John 14:9, he does not mean that he is the Father. He isn’t. He’s the Son. Hebrews 1:3 tells us Christ “reflects the glory of God and bears the very stamp of his nature.” That is the essence of what statues and icons are. Just as “the word became flesh” (John 1:14) and revealed the Father to us in a manner beyond the imaginings of men before the advent of Christ, representations of God’s holy angels and saints are also icons of Christ who by their heroic virtue “reflect the glory of God” as well. Just as St. Paul told the Corinthians to hold up his own life as a paradigm when he said, “I urge you, then, be imitators of me,” the Church continues to hold up great men and women of faith as “icons” of the life of Christ lived in fallen human nature aided by grace.

Adoration is as Adoration Does

Many Protestants will claim that, while the Catholic may say he does not adore statues, his actions prove otherwise. Catholics kiss statues, bow down before them, and pray in front of them. According to these same Protestants, that represents the adoration that is due God alone. Peter, when Cornelius bowed down to adore him, ordered him to “stand up; I too am a man” (Acts 10:26). When John bowed down before an angel, the angel told him, “You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you” (Rev. 19:10). But Catholics have no problem bowing down before what is less—a statue of Peter or John!

Is kissing or kneeling down before a statue the same as adoring it? Not necessarily. Both Peter in Acts 10 and the angel in Revelation 19 rebuked Cornelius and John, respectively, specifically for adoring them as if each was adoring the Lord. The problem was not with the bowing; it was with the adoration. Bowing does not necessarily entail adoration. For example, Jacob bowed to the ground on his knees seven times to his elder brother Esau (Gen. 33:3), Bathsheba bowed to her husband David (1 Kgs. 1:16), and Solomon bowed to his mother Bathsheba (1 Kgs. 2:19). In fact, in Revelation 3:9, John records the words of Jesus:

Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and learn that I have loved you.

Here, John uses the same verb for “bow down” (proskuneo) that he used in Revelation 19:10 for “adoration” when he acknowledged his own error in adoring the angel. Would anyone dare say that Jesus would make someone commit idolatry?

St. Paul encourages Christians to greet one another with a holy kiss (Rom. 16:16; 1 Cor. 16:20; 2 Cor. 13:12; 1 Thess. 5:26). The clergy in Ephesus embraced and kissed Paul after his final discourse to them in Acts 20:37. As the context of these passages make clear, these are acts of affection, not adoration.

Catholics take very seriously the biblical injunctions to praise and honor great members of God’s family (see, for example, Ps. 45:17; Luke 1:48; 1 Thess. 5:12–13; 1 Tim. 5:17; 1 Pet. 5:5–6). We also believe, as Scripture makes very clear, that death does not separate us from the love of Christ (Rom. 8:38) and from his body, which is the Church (Col. 1:24). Our “elders in heaven” (cf. Rev. 5:8) should be honored as much or even more than our greatest members on earth. So having statues honoring God or great saints brings to mind the God we adore and the saints we love and respect. For Catholics, having statues is just as natural as—you guessed it—having pictures in our wallets to remind us of the ones we love here on earth. But reminding ourselves of loved ones is a far cry from idolatry.



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To: CynicalBear
Do they bow or kneel before them?

So if you bow before your date and ask her to dance, she is an idol?

Since I kneeled before my wife to propose to her, she is an idol?

Is this what makes an idol an idol?

121 posted on 12/10/2013 11:53:46 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: c-b 1

I used to worship statues , then I joined a 12 step program.
Now all I worship are my wallet pictures, money and some other material things.


122 posted on 12/11/2013 12:21:58 AM PST by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
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To: michaelmas

The ark was covered whenever removed from the Holy of Holies.


123 posted on 12/11/2013 4:15:59 AM PST by circlecity
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To: GonzoII

Notice the only examples you can offer where God doesn’t condemn graven images are ones where God specifically commanded them to be made? A specific commandment can override a general one, but only within the bounds of that specific instance. So, unless you have a special command from God to make images of Mary, Jesus, and the saints, those verses are no help to you.


124 posted on 12/11/2013 6:29:37 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: A CA Guy

“Granted, some of the peasants do go to church with life size statues and can go too far with the concept.”

What did Paul say about doing things that lead your brothers to temptation? Did he encourage it?


125 posted on 12/11/2013 6:30:38 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: D-fendr
>> Since I kneeled before my wife to propose to her, she is an idol?<<

Were you using her as an image of God through which to worship Him?

126 posted on 12/11/2013 6:49:58 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: terycarl
you have never seen a statue as the subject of veneration in a Catholic Church.....you may have interpreted it that way, but that is the danger of interpreting something that you have no knowledge of.....don't try to interpret the Greek language unless you fully understand it lest you be babbling incoherently.

If you knew the bible, you'd know the danger is in doing something that others may interpret as unGodly...

127 posted on 12/11/2013 8:17:53 AM PST by Iscool
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To: GonzoII
I see the word "profitable" not "sufficient".

You ever see anything else that God said is profitable for doctrine???

128 posted on 12/11/2013 8:20:09 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Boogieman
"So, unless you have a special command from God to make images of Mary, Jesus, and the saints, those verses are no help to you."

There is no need of a special command to make any images of anyone or anything because it is clear in the context of the prohibitions of same, that they are not to be made in order to worship them.

129 posted on 12/11/2013 8:26:04 AM PST by GonzoII (Ted Cruz/Susana Martinez 2016)
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To: editor-surveyor

Wow!


130 posted on 12/11/2013 8:33:15 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: GonzoII

There is certainly a need of a special command if you want to compare what you are doing to the decorations in the Temple or the bronze serpent.


131 posted on 12/11/2013 8:37:12 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: GonzoII

In regards to your “context” argument, let’s explore that further. Here’s Exodus 20:17, a different commandment:

“17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.”

Do you think it is okay to cover your neighbor’s house, as long as you do not also covet his wife? Or is it clear from the context that each individual act is proscribed?


132 posted on 12/11/2013 8:50:14 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
"Here’s Exodus 20:17, a different commandment:"

We would be going down a different road here because these are moral absolutes. God could never command them because they are evil in themselves, but making a statue is not an evil in itself otherwise God who is Truth and Holy would never command statues to be built. It is clear in Scripture that the Israelites were prone to idolatry and had to be commanded not to build statues in order to worship them.

133 posted on 12/11/2013 10:05:40 AM PST by GonzoII (Ted Cruz/Susana Martinez 2016)
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To: GonzoII

The question isn’t about moral absolutes though, it’s about the context. Both commandments list multiple prohibitions in individual statements. You want to make the prohibitions in one commandment dependent on all the prohibitions (making statues is okay as long as you don’t worship them), but the prohibitions in the other commandment independent (coveting a neighbor’s wife is not okay, even if you are not also coveting their house).

You are being inconsistent in the way you are applying context to these commandments, and that suggests you may be just interpreting them subjectively rather than objectively.


134 posted on 12/11/2013 10:35:55 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: what's up
That's a contradiction in my view.

And that will remain the source of our disagreement. I am basing my argument on 2000 years of Church teaching back to the Deposit of Faith given by Christ to His Church. You have your opinion. If you care to learn more, there are numerous resources available to you. I will not convince you so there is no reason to continue. Good day and may God bless you.

135 posted on 12/11/2013 11:00:47 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: terycarl

“Don’t be afraid to see what you see.” - Ronald Reagan


136 posted on 12/11/2013 11:24:19 AM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: CynicalBear
So, we can see that bowing and kneeling is not what makes an idol and idol.

Were you using her as an image of God through which to worship Him?

So we need "God" in or definition. Good.

You now have: "used as an image of God through which to worship Him"

If we take the example of this image:

I think you'd agree this includes an 'image of God' at least as Michelangelo portrayed Him in this instance.

What would make this image of God an idol to complete your definition? Is it an idol? More precisely, imagine a human being in front of it. How would you correctly identify this person as guilty of the sin of idolatry or not?

137 posted on 12/11/2013 11:38:58 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: pgyanke
I was responding to your comment:

And yet you have failed to produce a contradiction

You directed the comment to me personally, so I answered personally.

However, millions note the same thing I have...and Protestant teaching supports it...that the overwhelming evidence in Scripture points to the fact that prayer is directed toward God in Heaven...not saints.

God is omnipotent...therefore it makes sense to pray to Him. If you understand the Book of Hebrews you will understand that there is no barrier anymore between God and us...Jesus has eradicated it. Yet Catholics still desire a mediator. Scripture doesn't support it.

138 posted on 12/11/2013 12:08:26 PM PST by what's up
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To: D-fendr
>> I think you'd agree this includes an 'image of God' at least as Michelangelo portrayed Him in this instance.<<

Well you’d probably be thinking wrong. I haven’t heard anyone using that as an image to bow down in front of. I do have issues with those however in that God also said not to try to portray him in any likeness. Why do you think that God never allowed anyone to actually “see” Him? That is an image of man’s construct. God is spirit.

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

God told Moses that he didn’t see any likeness of God for a reason.

Deuteronomy 4:14 Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of likeness on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire: 15 so that you do not become corrupt and make for yourselves an idol, an image of any shape, whether formed like a man or a woman,

If you feel that reducing God to an image like that gives Him the glory He deserves I certainly can’t stop you.

139 posted on 12/11/2013 1:28:34 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
Let's see if we can stay on topic here.

Well you’d probably be thinking wrong. I haven’t heard anyone using that as an image to bow down in front of.

Doesn't matter for the purpose of determining just how you decide what makes an idol an idol. Any example that is fits your definition works, by definition, your definition. Any image of God can be used for illustration of your position, if your position stands up to examination. To wit: "used as an image of God through which to worship Him."

You said you "haven’t heard anyone using that as an image to bow down in front of. " Assume someone did bow down in front of Michelangelo's painting - this image of God. Would they thereby be guilty of idolatry? And would the painting be an idol then?

140 posted on 12/11/2013 1:56:17 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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