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To: CynicalBear
The verse is:

8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast

You left out the "and this not from yourselves" part of the verse. It's important. There can be arguments over it, but I see it saying that even faith is a gift from God.

13 posted on 12/10/2013 6:07:54 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
There can be arguments over it, but I see it saying that even faith is a gift from God.

Yes, but since that gift is available to everyone, it's a given. It's a baseline from which everyone starts.

16 posted on 12/10/2013 6:26:57 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: xzins

You are so correct. I simply copied that verse from the text of the article but you are correct. That really needs to be included as far too many people would like to take credit rather than understand it is the faith of Christ. Thank you for pointing that out.


37 posted on 12/10/2013 8:20:03 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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