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To: smvoice; Hieronymus; Iscool

I hesitate to agree with anything the Catholic Church says they believe. I can say I believe in the virgin birth but that means something totally different than when a Catholic says it. I can say communion of saints but it means something different than when Catholics say it. Asking me to agree with anything the Catholic Church says is asking for a long discussion of what the Catholic means when they say anything.


31 posted on 12/09/2013 5:01:30 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

IMHO, very good point.


33 posted on 12/09/2013 5:05:04 PM PST by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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To: CynicalBear; Iscool; Hieronymus

And that is the great gulf between us. Words MEAN something. And any thinking person would study the scriptures to see if those things which were being taught were so, according to GOD. So do away with everything that MAN has written, and you are left with one priceless item: God’s Word of Truth. There just is no way around this. Either He has given to us His revelation to man, or He is piece-mealing it together, and giving it out in doses. And this from the Creator of the Universe, who desires above all else, to be reconciled to man through the finished work of Christ.


36 posted on 12/09/2013 5:18:57 PM PST by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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To: CynicalBear
I can say I believe in the virgin birth but that means something totally different than when a Catholic says it.

Different or less? I believe that Mary bore Jesus without having carnal knowledge of a man, through the power of the Holy Spirit. If you believe that, then no, we don't believe something "totally different," the fact that I believe in a few more things notwithstanding.

57 posted on 12/10/2013 5:45:40 AM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: CynicalBear

check out the Catholic Catechism..It won’t bite, promise. http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/_INDEX.HTM


60 posted on 12/10/2013 6:01:26 AM PST by 1nviaggio
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