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Rush Limbaugh Doesn't Get Pope Francis
Catholic Answers ^ | December 4, 2013 | Trent Horn

Posted on 12/05/2013 6:26:41 AM PST by NYer

In a recent segment on his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh talked about the pope’s new apostolic exhortation Evangelii Gaudium. I don’t have the space to address everything Limbaugh said, but what struck me was his mischaracterization of Pope Francis's comments about economics.

The fundamental problem was that Limbaugh chose to quote not what Pope Francis wrote but a Washington Post article on the exhortation, which stated:

Pope Francis attacked unfettered capitalism as "a new tyranny" and beseeched global leaders to fight poverty and growing inequality, in a document on Tuesday setting out a platform for his papacy and calling for a renewal of the Catholic Church. . . . In it, Francis went further than previous comments criticizing the global economic system, attacking the "idolatry of money."

Limbaugh responded by saying, “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope. Unfettered capitalism? That doesn't exist anywhere. 'Unfettered capitalism' is a liberal socialist phrase to describe the United States.”

Comrade Francis?

Granted, it takes hours to read this massive document but, for someone whose words are heard by millions of people, before calling the pope a "Marxist" a simple use of the control+F function would have been warranted. If Limbaugh had done that, he would have found that the phrase “unfettered capitalism” does not appear in Evangelii Gaudium.

Neither is the global economy the main theme of this exhortation; rather, it's only one area where Pope Francis is calling on the Church to evangelize the world. He describes specific financial and cultural challenges facing the human community and then addresses the temptations of pastors who must face these challenges. Nowhere does the Pope blame humanity’s woes on the concept of the free market or demand a Marxist government to save mankind.

A Betrayal of John Paul II?

Limbaugh later said, “[J]uxtaposed against the actions of Pope John Paul II, this pope and the things that he released yesterday or recently are really striking.”

No, they aren’t. In his 1991 encyclical Centesimus Annus, Pope John Paul II reflected on socialism and capitalism in light of the recent fall of the Soviet Union. Although he acknowledged that profit has a “legitimate role” in the function of a business and that “the Marxist solution” to economic inequality had failed, he also spoke of the “inadequacies of capitalism” and said that profit is the not the only indicator that a business is doing well. The human dignity of workers matter too, and if capitalism is left unchecked it becomes “ruthless” and leads to “inhuman exploitation.” Pope Francis's words are consistent with John Paul's.

Limbaugh continued:

You talk about unfettered, this is an unfettered anti-capitalist dictate from Pope Francis. And listen to this. This is an actual quote from what he wrote. "The culture of prosperity deadens us. We are thrilled if the market offers us something new to purchase. In the meantime, all those lives stunted for lack of opportunity seem a mere spectacle. They fail to move us." I mean, that's pretty profound. That's going way beyond matters that are ethical. This is almost a statement about who should control financial markets. He says that the global economy needs government control.

But the Pope is not saying that. He is saying that a global economy needs global control, not government control in the form of some creepy one-world government that runs everything. Pope Francis said, “If we really want to achieve a healthy world economy, what is needed at this juncture of history is a more efficient way of interacting which, with due regard for the sovereignty of each nation [emphasis added], ensures the economic well-being of all countries, not just of a few (206).”

A Complex Question

The Church teaches that the dignity of the human person and the management of global economies is more complex than just choosing "capitalism" over "socialism/communism." What is required is an approach that respects individual freedom without allowing that freedom to become some all-consuming monster that tramples the weak and poor.

In Centesimus Annus, Pope John Paul II was asked if capitalism should be the dominant economic model in light of the fall of the USSR. His answer is insightful, and I think it's an excellent parallel to Pope Francis's attitude on the subject. Pope John Paul II said:

The answer is obviously complex. If by "capitalism" is meant an economic system which recognizes the fundamental and positive role of business, the market, private property and the resulting responsibility for the means of production, as well as free human creativity in the economic sector, then the answer is certainly in the affirmative, even though it would perhaps be more appropriate to speak of a "business economy," "market economy" or simply "free economy." But if by "capitalism" is meant a system in which freedom in the economic sector is not circumscribed within a strong juridical framework which places it at the service of human freedom in its totality and sees it as a particular aspect of that freedom, the core of which is ethical and religious, then the reply is certainly negative.

The reality is that the Catholic Church, and Pope Francis included, cannot simply say it is for or against capitalism. It’s a complex question. While the Washington Post said Pope Francis issued a “decidedly populist teaching” the Pope said in Evangelii Gaudium that he was not arguing for “an irresponsible populism,” or a solution that naively pits the poor against the rich (204).

On the other hand, while the Pope might agree with Limbaugh that Adam Smith’s “invisible hand” can lift some people out of poverty, it can also strangle the life out of the poor, and so the Pope says in that same paragraph that we can no longer trust the market alone to ensure that all people are treated with dignity.

In closing, I think that the following paragraph from the Pope’s exhortation is something that should be mailed to Limbaugh and maybe we can turn down the heat just a little bit:

If anyone feels offended by my words, I would respond that I speak them with affection and with the best of intentions, quite apart from any personal interest or political ideology. My words are not those of a foe or an opponent. I am interested only in helping those who are in thrall to an individualistic, indifferent and self-centered mentality to be freed from those unworthy chains and to attain a way of living and thinking which is more humane, noble and fruitful, and which will bring dignity to their presence on this earth (208).



TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: capitalism; liberationtheology; limbaugh; marxism; marxists; pope; popefrancis; rushlimbaugh; rushpope; talkradio
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To: NYer

Rush is 100% correct when it comes to matters of the media but he sometimes misses when it comes to individuals which is surprising because what we hear about an individual in the news is through the news and Rush knows the danger of relying on the news reports about anything.

I will have to study a bit where things have run amiss but one thing I know is that ‘capitalism’ is not equivalent to ‘greed’ and ‘love of money’; thus capitalism is not evil. Greed hiding behind capitalism is evil in much the same way that a pedophile hides behind priestly vestments.

I think Pope Francis is a very very intelligent man who is also very articulate so I will have to see the essence and spirit of which he wrote. But one thing is for sure, the bankers of today are not so regulated as they have been in the past and that has allowed greed to mix with capitalism. We call them banksters and they are indeed evil, hoarding trillions and doing nothing to help local economies with the power they have been granted which is the power to print and trade money and its derivatives.

So I would think Pope Francis is addressing the evil greed that has occupied the upper ranks of the world’s prime banks for which not one of them has been brought to justice for the incredibly huge heist they pulled off in the 2000s, to the sum of many many trillions.

The actions and behavior of these banksters did not constitute capitalism but greed taken to criminal theft. And I would expect that is what the Pope is addressing.

As for my respect of Rush, he is a treasure to the conservative movement and if anything he can be a little quick to pull the trigger on anything that smells of Marxism.

Catholic priests sometimes take the ‘vows of poverty’ a little too far. While there is no vice in humility and humble surroundings, there is plenty of it found in attitudes of sloth and stoic perspectives.

One of my admired priests is the Anglican Arch Bishop Nicholas of Ghana who exhorts his people to get out and work their butts off to create wealth and prosperity. In other words it’s OK to get rich and live rich, after Our Lord’s Parable of the Talents, we are not to kick back and let it ride, we are to profit and prosper. The Catholic Church could use a different perspective in this regard to encourage people to work and get rich and not just bestow itself with the riches of its members ‘for the Church’ but to actually teach people to fish, to get them a boat and show them how to navigate and facilitate bringing products to market that meet quality standards.

The Catholic Church is indeed often too far to the Left in its economic philosophy, and that should change. This maybe is why Rush jumped on this perhaps a little too quick.


61 posted on 12/05/2013 7:56:40 AM PST by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: rockrr

He made 12 million illegals INSTANT citizens.


62 posted on 12/05/2013 7:59:42 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Lakeshark

“Having attended as an auditor the 2012 Synod on the New Evangelization, whose work touched on many of the themes raised in this Apostolic Exhortation, I wholeheartedly welcome our Holy Father’s Apostolic Exhortation Evangelii Gaudium as an important and timely contribution to the cause of the New Evangelization. Specifically, this exhortation shows us Pope Francis’ missionary spirit. It highlights his belief that the Gospel message and loving outreach of the Church are for everyone, that the Church must go outside itself and welcome those on the margins with love and healing in the spirit of Christ himself. Finally, it shows clearly the importance of the Marian dimension to the New Evangelization - calling her, again, the “Star of the New Evangelization.” If this document is embraced by the Church throughout the world, it could mark a key moment for a reinvigorated New Evangelization of our culture, which too often has forgotten the Good News of the Gospel, which is central to our faith”

~ Carl Anderson, Supreme Knight of the Knights of Columbus


63 posted on 12/05/2013 8:04:13 AM PST by NKP_Vet (God Bless Pope Francis)
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To: NKP_Vet

No he didn’t.


64 posted on 12/05/2013 8:04:19 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: NKP_Vet
War Ronald Reagan a Catholic?

What does that have to do with the price of rice in China today?

Ronald Reagan hasn't been President for 24 year.

65 posted on 12/05/2013 8:05:07 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: NKP_Vet
Yeah, using the phrase "trickle down" will certainly enable him to preach to gospel to the leftists in and out of the catholic church all over the world........

Well done and brilliant.

Can I roll my eyes yet?

66 posted on 12/05/2013 8:08:45 AM PST by Lakeshark (Mr Reid, tear down this law!)
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To: NYer

I have absolutely no problem with John Paul II’s take, and I suspect Francis wouldn’t either. I wouldn’t have even before. Capitalism works best, if not ultimately only, when and where the players are on the same page ethically and morally. The problems arise where they’re not. And as far as consumerism, even MasterCard admits that there are some things money can’t buy.


67 posted on 12/05/2013 8:10:52 AM PST by RichInOC (2013-14 Tiber Swim Team)
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To: NYer

“Not holding my breath but Limbaugh owes an apology to his audience.”


Limbaugh loves tossing verbal pipe bombs. Only time he ever apologizes is when an explosion scares off a bunch of advertisers, as with the whole Fluke-Slut thing. So long as Carbonite, Gold Bond foot powder and the rest stay put, Rush will revel in his new found Calvinism.


68 posted on 12/05/2013 8:13:00 AM PST by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: RIghtwardHo
Limbaugh needs to go away. He is a faux expert who most assuredly does NOT speak for the Savior.

The Savior spoke for Himself…..and since Limbaugh has never claimed to do so, your snark is just empty fluff. Limbaugh was right about what the Pope said, and the Pope is just wrong wrong wrong about free enterprise.

69 posted on 12/05/2013 8:13:33 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: steelhead_trout

Not a syllable of what you said makes any sense whatsoever…from pipe bomb to Cavlinism, you were trying to be too clever but you simply whiffed.


70 posted on 12/05/2013 8:14:28 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: RichInOC

But that’s a problem with human nature, and not capitalism per se. Those same human nature dynamics work in crime, socialism ,communism, etc, and even more pronounced.


71 posted on 12/05/2013 8:15:29 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: txrangerette

“Rush is right, though, that Capitalism has done the only decent job of lifting people up to a higher economic plane.

The rest of the “isms” are crashing failures”


Any economic “ism” will foster a nation’s prosperity, so long as that nation remains true to God’s word and supportive of His people. The Soviet Union and its satellites murdered millions of clergy and faithful. God doesn’t look kindly on that, and thus the USSR was doomed whether its economic policy was based on Marx or Hayek.


72 posted on 12/05/2013 8:15:42 AM PST by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: NKP_Vet

…so what?


73 posted on 12/05/2013 8:16:27 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: NKP_Vet
I know all about the truths of Catholicism - I don't need a lecture from you.
74 posted on 12/05/2013 8:16:43 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: steelhead_trout

72 is even worse than 68…….


75 posted on 12/05/2013 8:17:16 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Tony Alamo, is that you?


76 posted on 12/05/2013 8:17:46 AM PST by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: NYer

I don’t get him either and have lost all interest in him.


77 posted on 12/05/2013 8:18:03 AM PST by AdaGray
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To: Salvation
Isn't it sanctimonious-deprogramming time for you?
78 posted on 12/05/2013 8:18:42 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: longtermmemmory
Francis’ comments are being taking by homosexuals as “sanctioning” their mating habbits.

And Obama and socialists are taking Francis' comments as sanctioning their redistributive habits…..

79 posted on 12/05/2013 8:20:50 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: NYer

Yes he does... and it is clear who and what that man is.


80 posted on 12/05/2013 8:21:28 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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