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To: StormPrepper
Paul's letters were directed to specific people in the Church in order to instruct and correct them. So yes, they were official and authoritative.

The Apostles creed was directed to specific people in the church of Jesus Christ of former-day Saints in order to instruct and correct them. So yes, they were official and authoritative -- given by the authorized leaders within the church of Jesus Christ of former-day Saints.

And, at least in the Lds "apostle" Bruce McConkie's mind, the book Mormon Doctrine he wrote was directed to specific Mormon people in the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints in order to instruct and correct them. So yes, at least from a Mormon point of view, it was a FORMAL, OFFICIAL rendering -- approved in its revised version by Spencer W. Kimball, David O. McKay, & Marion G. Romney ... as testified to by Deseret Book publishers...owned by the Mormon church ... in its 2003 published book The Bruce R. McConkie Story: Reflections of a Son, a biography written by his son, Joseph Fielding McConkie...who was a prof @ BYU

See post #75...which, I see, btw, you've ignored.

You & other Mormons may be able to dismiss the original 1958 version of MD as lacking overarching sanction, but that's not so of the 1966 version. And the Mormon church was still republishing Mormon Doctrine as of 1978...and still citing the book for decades to come in teaching adults, teens in the church.

If it was some nasty opinions from which the church leaders wished to steer its grassroots away from, then endorsing the book would have just shown lack of discernment issues at the highest levels of the hierarchy. So your actual dismissal of the book indicts all these Salt Lake City gatekeepers as wholly lacking of discernment.

Bottom line: You still haven't dismissed the response. You attempted, but was an incomplete pass.

128 posted on 12/03/2013 8:30:22 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
[stormprepper]"Paul's letters were directed to specific people in the Church in order to instruct and correct them. So yes, they were official and authoritative."

[Colofornian]"The Apostles creed was directed to specific people in the church of Jesus Christ of former-day Saints in order to instruct and correct them. So yes, they were official and authoritative -- given by the authorized leaders within the church of Jesus Christ of former-day Saints."

Paul was a real Apostle of Jesus Christ, who prophesied, and was directed by the Lord Himself. And you compare that with some ambiguous writing that shows up almost 400 years after the Apostles. Paul was authorized by the Lord face to face. 400 years after Paul men were authorized by other men only. There's no comparison.

"And, at least in the Lds "apostle" Bruce McConkie's mind,"

Please explain your mind reading skills and techniques.

"So yes, at least from a Mormon point of view"

You have never been a Mormon. I have been a Mormon for 30 years. How do you have the slightest clue what a Mormon view point is? Especially when you're told you're wrong and corrected, you won't accept the correction.

"as testified to by Deseret Book publishers...owned by the Mormon church"

Deseret Book

"it was a FORMAL, OFFICIAL rendering"

It is not published by the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Period. My scriptures are, my Sunday school manual is, Bruce R. McConkie's "Mormon Doctrine" is not. Are you able to understand the difference? The Presidency of the Church did have a vested interest in making sure it was accurate, mainly because of the title Elder McConkie was putting on it. But it is not an official Church publication. The Ensign magazine is an official publication, "Mormon Doctrine" is not.

The First Presidency gave Elder McConkie input to help him with this personal book release.

Official publications by the Church are printed regardless of sales numbers. "Mormon Doctrine" was printed and reprinted based on sales numbers. Which is why it's no longer printed. Deseret Book decided to no longer print it because sales figures were low.


132 posted on 12/03/2013 10:07:25 AM PST by StormPrepper
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