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To: redleghunter; TNMountainMan; alphadog; infool7; Heart-Rest; HoosierDammit; red irish; fastrock; ...

“Your ancestors ate the manna in the desert, but they died;
this is the bread that comes down from heaven so that one may eat it and not die.

I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.”
The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us (his) flesh to eat?”

Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.

For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink

Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.
Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.

This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.”

These things he said while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum
Then many of his disciples who were listening said, “This saying is hard; who can accept it?”

Since Jesus knew that his disciples were murmuring about this, he said to them, “Does this shock you?

What if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?
It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

But there are some of you who do not believe.” Jesus knew from the beginning the ones who would not believe and the one who would betray him.
And he said, “For this reason I have told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by my Father.”

As a result of this, many (of) his disciples returned to their former way of life and no longer accompanied him

Jesus then said to the Twelve, “Do you also want to leave?”

Simon Peter answered him, “Master, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.

We have come to believe and are convinced that you are the Holy One of God.”
Jesus answered them, “Did I not choose you twelve? Yet is not one of you a devil?”

He was referring to Judas, son of Simon the Iscariot; it was he who would betray him, one of the Twelve.” [John 6: 49-71]


49 posted on 11/23/2013 5:17:25 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: narses

Hey good evening. Hope you had a chance to read the entire sermon series like everyone else.


63 posted on 11/23/2013 5:39:09 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: narses; redleghunter
unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. He was referring to Judas, son of Simon the Iscariot;

Interesting you should post this (rather than one of your two images) in response to an article that teaches true faith is an obedient faith, which RCs imagine characterizes their church.

So you believe (to be consistent) that those who do not believe in transubstantiation have no spiritual life in them, but are as Judas?

Yet being consistent with John and the rest of Scripture, spiritual life was never gained by physically eating, and thus eating here is consistent with John who teaches believing the gospel is how souls obtained life in them, and they lived by Jesus by doing His will as it is written, (Mt. 4:4) as Jesus lived by the Father by doing His, which was His "bread." (Jn. 4:34; 6:47)

121 posted on 11/24/2013 5:52:53 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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